ogre@whuts.UUCP (LOCOCO) (08/08/85)
The latest word: the issues have been resolved. The strike is over. When the season will be resumed has not yet been announced. Details to be announced at the news conference at 5:00PM. Keep your fingers crossed fans. Maybe we can ignore this one this time. \ / |\\ / | | \| | | |\ | | | \| John B. Lo Coco (...whuts!ogre) (...szuxn!ogre) 1-201-467-7436
ran@bentley.UUCP (RA Novo) (08/08/85)
A few weeks ago, I remember when discussing the strike, somebody mentioned the possibility of promoting farmhands in order to break the strike. This was countered by the argument that as soon as a player is promoted, he is considered a major leaguer, and is on strike. Although the strike is over, a hypothetical situation comes to mind. What if a player is demoted? It would help a minor league affiliate both in the standings and at the gate if its parent team's stars are sent to play a couple of games. Just think of the Columbus Clippers with Dave Winfield playing outfield. -- Robert A. Novo "Captain! They put creatures AT&T Bell Labs in our ears! They made us say Piscataway, NJ things that weren't true!" ...bentley!ran
radio@spuxll.UUCP (Rick Farina) (08/09/85)
> A few weeks ago, I remember when discussing the strike, somebody mentioned > the possibility of promoting farmhands in order to break the strike. This > was countered by the argument that as soon as a player is promoted, he is > considered a major leaguer, and is on strike. Although the strike is over, > a hypothetical situation comes to mind. What if a player is demoted? It > would help a minor league affiliate both in the standings and at the gate > if its parent team's stars are sent to play a couple of games. Just think > of the Columbus Clippers with Dave Winfield playing outfield. Demoting a player might help the minor league affiliate but it would hurt the major league team: demoted players continue to draw salaries based on their major league contract, strike or no strike. In addition, affiliates are, in most cases, independent businesses. So, the Yankees' demotion of Winfield to Columbus benifits the Clippers at the expense of the Yankees, hardly the type of donation a Steinbrenner would seem disposed to make. George did recently demote Mike Armstrong and his six-figure contract to Columbus. However, this move is by no means considered to be a donation; it is more-or-less a capital-loss. raf ---
bobhic@aluxe.UUCP (ADOLT) (08/13/85)
> > > A few weeks ago, I remember when discussing the strike, somebody mentioned > > the possibility of promoting farmhands in order to break the strike. This > > was countered by the argument that as soon as a player is promoted, he is > > considered a major leaguer, and is on strike. Although the strike is over, > > a hypothetical situation comes to mind. What if a player is demoted? It > > would help a minor league affiliate both in the standings and at the gate > > if its parent team's stars are sent to play a couple of games. Just think > > of the Columbus Clippers with Dave Winfield playing outfield. > > Demoting a player might help the minor league affiliate but it > would hurt the major league team: demoted players continue to draw > salaries based on their major league contract, strike or no strike. > In addition, affiliates are, in most cases, independent businesses. > So, the Yankees' demotion of Winfield to Columbus benifits the Clippers at > the expense of the Yankees, hardly the type of donation a Steinbrenner > would seem disposed to make. George did recently demote Mike Armstrong > and his six-figure contract to Columbus. However, this move is by no means > considered to be a donation; it is more-or-less a capital-loss. > > raf > --- Prior to the strike, several discussions on tv indicated that owners were planning to demote the lowest paid players (who would continue to receive pay) and promote the highest paid players (who would not receive pay), thereby saving the difference. I never heard if this plan was used but if the strike had continued - I feel sure it would have-with no regard to the minors. -------------------------- bob adolt - bell labs - allentown
jcc@uvaee.UUCP (Jay Colognori) (08/13/85)
In article <560@bentley.UUCP> ran@bentley.UUCP (RA Novo) writes: > Although the strike is over, >a hypothetical situation comes to mind. What if a player is demoted? It >would help a minor league affiliate both in the standings and at the gate >if its parent team's stars are sent to play a couple of games. Just think >of the Columbus Clippers with Dave Winfield playing outfield. How about the Richmond Braves (The best team in the International League this year) with Dale Murphy? Whew! Good question. What's to keep the owners from doing such a thing? I recall the Pirates demoting one player with a salary of about 450K. (Lemasters?) Is there a rule limiting the demotions of certian or all players?. - Jay C.
wjnz@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (James Cooper) (08/14/85)
> [stuff about demoting major-leaguer's during the strike, and their > subsequent salaries...] Not all players make the same amount of money in the majors or minors. I know that when the Cubs sent Shawon Dunston to the minors in June that his salary was cut severly. Apparently his contract has different pay scales for the minors and the majors. Speaking of Shawon, the Cubs finally did what should have been done a while ago - axe Larry Bowa. Maybe they should have tried to trade him back to Philly and picked up another Sandberg (ala the Dejesus for Bowa and Sandberg deal). Another interesting not is that the Cubs AA shortstop Mike Brumley is tearing up the league. That puts a little more pressure on Dunston. -- James Cooper ..!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!wjnz "That's when I reach for my revolver..."