[net.sport.baseball] Baseball Strike?

ogre@whuts.UUCP (LOCOCO) (08/08/85)

The latest word: the issues have been resolved. The strike is over.
When the season will be resumed has not yet been announced. Details
to be announced at the news conference at 5:00PM. Keep your fingers
crossed fans. Maybe we can ignore this one this time.

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ran@bentley.UUCP (RA Novo) (08/08/85)

A few weeks ago, I remember when discussing the strike, somebody mentioned
the possibility of promoting farmhands in order to break the strike. This
was countered by the argument that as soon as a player is promoted, he is
considered a major leaguer, and is on strike. Although the strike is over,
a hypothetical situation comes to mind. What if a player is demoted? It
would help a minor league affiliate both in the standings and at the gate
if its parent team's stars are sent to play a couple of games. Just think
of the Columbus Clippers with Dave Winfield playing outfield.

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radio@spuxll.UUCP (Rick Farina) (08/09/85)

> A few weeks ago, I remember when discussing the strike, somebody mentioned
> the possibility of promoting farmhands in order to break the strike. This
> was countered by the argument that as soon as a player is promoted, he is
> considered a major leaguer, and is on strike. Although the strike is over,
> a hypothetical situation comes to mind. What if a player is demoted? It
> would help a minor league affiliate both in the standings and at the gate
> if its parent team's stars are sent to play a couple of games. Just think
> of the Columbus Clippers with Dave Winfield playing outfield.

Demoting a player might help the minor league affiliate but it
would hurt the major league team: demoted players continue to draw
salaries based on their major league contract, strike or no strike.
In addition, affiliates are, in most cases, independent businesses.
So, the Yankees' demotion of Winfield to Columbus benifits the Clippers at
the expense of the Yankees, hardly the type of donation a Steinbrenner
would seem disposed to make. George did recently demote Mike Armstrong
and his six-figure contract to Columbus. However, this move is by no means
considered to be a donation; it is more-or-less a capital-loss.

raf
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bobhic@aluxe.UUCP (ADOLT) (08/13/85)

> 
> > A few weeks ago, I remember when discussing the strike, somebody mentioned
> > the possibility of promoting farmhands in order to break the strike. This
> > was countered by the argument that as soon as a player is promoted, he is
> > considered a major leaguer, and is on strike. Although the strike is over,
> > a hypothetical situation comes to mind. What if a player is demoted? It
> > would help a minor league affiliate both in the standings and at the gate
> > if its parent team's stars are sent to play a couple of games. Just think
> > of the Columbus Clippers with Dave Winfield playing outfield.
> 
> Demoting a player might help the minor league affiliate but it
> would hurt the major league team: demoted players continue to draw
> salaries based on their major league contract, strike or no strike.
> In addition, affiliates are, in most cases, independent businesses.
> So, the Yankees' demotion of Winfield to Columbus benifits the Clippers at
> the expense of the Yankees, hardly the type of donation a Steinbrenner
> would seem disposed to make. George did recently demote Mike Armstrong
> and his six-figure contract to Columbus. However, this move is by no means
> considered to be a donation; it is more-or-less a capital-loss.
> 
> raf
> ---
Prior to the strike, several discussions on tv indicated
that owners were planning to demote the lowest paid players
(who  would continue to receive pay) and promote the highest
paid players (who would not receive pay), thereby saving the
difference.  I never heard if this plan was used but if the
strike had continued - I feel sure it would have-with no
regard to the minors.
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bob adolt - bell labs - allentown

jcc@uvaee.UUCP (Jay Colognori) (08/13/85)

In article <560@bentley.UUCP> ran@bentley.UUCP (RA Novo) writes:
>      Although the strike is over,
>a hypothetical situation comes to mind. What if a player is demoted? It
>would help a minor league affiliate both in the standings and at the gate
>if its parent team's stars are sent to play a couple of games. Just think
>of the Columbus Clippers with Dave Winfield playing outfield.

	How about the Richmond Braves (The best team in the International
League this year) with Dale Murphy?  Whew! Good question. What's to keep
the owners from doing such a thing? I recall the Pirates demoting one 
player with a salary of about 450K. (Lemasters?) Is there a rule limiting
the demotions of certian or all players?.

					- Jay C.

wjnz@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (James Cooper) (08/14/85)

> [stuff about demoting major-leaguer's during the strike, and their
>  subsequent salaries...]

Not all players make the same amount of money in the majors or minors.

I know that when the Cubs sent Shawon Dunston to the minors in June that
his salary was cut severly.  Apparently his contract has different pay
scales for the minors and the majors.  Speaking of Shawon, the Cubs finally
did what should have been done a while ago - axe Larry Bowa.  Maybe they
should have tried to trade him back to Philly and picked up another Sandberg
(ala the Dejesus for Bowa and Sandberg deal).  Another interesting not is
that the Cubs AA shortstop Mike Brumley is tearing up the league.  That
puts a little more pressure on Dunston.


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