jhr2@houem.UUCP (J.ROSENBLUTH) (09/03/85)
> I don't think any pitcher deserves to win the MVP. > That is why God created Cy Young. If you can give it to a pitcher > who a pitcher who helps your team win 25 games or so, why not > give it to a pinch-hitter who bats .385 during the season, > coming up with a timely hit every few games. Don't get me wrong, > Gooden is an absolute marvel ( 20-3, in two of his three losses, > he was pulled only to have the reliever credit Gooden with the loss), > but I think the MVP is for daily players not part-timers. I think a list of MVP candidates could be drawn up from the following: Pretend that each player is replaced with an average player at the same position. Estimate how much difference in Wins and Losses would result. MVP candidates would have the largest positive effect. Now, Gooden is 20-4 as of now. An average pitcher with the Met offense would be about 13-11 (???). So Dwight is about 7 games to the good. That strikes me as a lot of games. I find it hard to believe that any of the other candidates makes much more than a 7 game difference. I think pitchers can be MVPs, Dwight is a legitimate candidate, the Mets best, and might just win it if the Mets overtake the Redbirds. There is no way a pinch hitter makes a 7 game difference. As of today, I'd choose Guerrero. He's got the best bat in the league, his team is winning and started doing so when he started hitting. And his low RBI total? Yeah, that dampens my enthusiam. It could be due to the rest of the team not being on base, or his hitting with men on base. But even if it's the latter, the Dodgers just keep on winning.
michaelf@ISM780.UUCP (09/06/85)
Pedro's low RBI totals ARE because of the few Dodgers on base. How can he hit 32 homers and hit .322 and not lead the RBI count. As a matter of fact, I think he's sixth or something. That's ridiculous. But it's not his fault. His slugging percentage and OBA are also excellent. Usually the guys who hit for average hit 20-25 homers tops. Only Brett comes to mind as an average (batting average that is) hitter with some sock. Guerrero is the definite MVP of this year. Mattingly is the definite MVP of the AL. The only reason the Yankees are contending this year is because of their offense. Young Don is the best hitter for the Yanks. Talk about an RBI animal! I'm sick of hearing how these multimillionaire players give twenty tickets to underpriveleged kids and so forth. That's like the NY Times telling how I donated three dollars to Muscular Dystrophy. Eddie Murray not only gives 50 seats to each game, he donated $500,000 to some charity. Half a million bucks! That's a class, class move. He's worth every penny of the 2.6 mill a year he'll get from now on. Even though he gets a lot of respect, he's still an underrated ballplayer. Nobody will beat the DODGERS this year. World Series rings are a couple of months away. Now with Madlock at third, ouch!
nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (09/11/85)
The Yankees are contending not just because of their hitting, take a look at the team pitchings stats some time as well, you'll see that they are 3rd in the League (or so). Ron Guidry for AL Cy Young! -- James C. Armstrong, Jnr. {ihnp4,cbosgd,akgua}!abnji!nyssa Maybe they'll want one of your women to experiment on, perhaps I shall take this one to them! -who said it, what story? (Get the reply to me by Thursday!)