zurawski@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (12/17/85)
Is there anybody out there that disagrees with this statement: Either Brooks Robinson is very overrated, or Ron Santo is very underrated, or both.
nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (12/20/85)
Yes. Brooks Robinson was one of the finer players at third base in
all time. Ron Santo, though good, was not in the same class.
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"Remain silent, or you will die" Who said them, what story?franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) (12/25/85)
In article <1017@abnji.UUCP> nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) writes: >Yes. Brooks Robinson was one of the finer players at third base in >all time. Ron Santo, though good, was not in the same class. I will grant you that Robinson was a better fielder than Santo. But Santo was a very good fielder, and a much better hitter. While I would have been happy to have either of them on a team I was managing, given a choice, I would choose Santo. I think Santo was underrated for two reasons. One is that he played on the Cubs during a period when they failed to get into post-season competition; so he never got the kind of national exposure that Robinson got. (And Robinson was lucky enough to put together an incredible set of defensive gems in a single series. The man was very good, but he did not make that kind of play nearly that often.) The other reason is the continuing undervaluing of the base on balls in baseball. The walks made the difference between Santo being a good hitter, and an outstanding one. During their playing days in Chicago, Santo and Billy Williams were generally regarded as comparable players, and (after Ernie Banks got old) the two stars of the team. But Williams was easily elected to the Hall, while Santo hasn't made it. There ain't no justice. Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Multimate International 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108
bradley@princeton.UUCP (Bradley Dickinson) (12/30/85)
> In article <1017@abnji.UUCP> nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) writes: > >Yes. Brooks Robinson was one of the finer players at third base in > >all time. Ron Santo, though good, was not in the same class. > > I will grant you that Robinson was a better fielder than Santo. But Santo > was a very good fielder, and a much better hitter. While I would have been > happy to have either of them on a team I was managing, given a choice, I > would choose Santo. For further discussion about Santo, see the cover story of the current "National Pastime" published by SABR. He's one of a dozen players proposed a deserving of enshrinement in the Hall of Fame.