[net.sport.baseball] The 1986 Mets

mahanti@pluto.UUCP (Dr. Mahanti) (01/19/86)

    THE WINNER OF THE 1986 NATIONAL LEAGUE(AND THE WORLD CHAMPIONS
OF BASEBALL) WILL BE THE NEW YORK METS.THE METS WILL CLICK THIS
YEAR.WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE DOCTOR BUT DID ANYBODY KNOW THAT RON
DARLING WON 17 GAMES LAST YEAR?IF HE WORKS ON HIS SPLIT-FINGER
FASTBALL AND CONSISTENTLY GETS HIS CURVE OVER,THE METS WILL HAVE
THE BEST NUMBER TWO STARTER IN BASEBALL.THE SURPRISE(IF YOU WANT
TO CALL IT A SURPRISE) WILL BE SID "FINCH" FERNANDEZ.THIS GUY HAS
AN AWESOME FASTBALL AND ADDED WITH HIS SLIDER PLUS A YEAR AND A
HALF OF EXPERIENCE,THIS GUY IS ALMOST GOING TO BE UNHITTABLE.tDTHE
FOURTH STARTING POSITION IS PDOPEN BUT BRUCE BERENYI WILL BE BACK,
AND HE'S GOT THE TALENT TO WIN SOME GAMES.THE METS BULLPEN SHOULD
BE ADEQUETE.YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK OF JESSE OROSCO(IF YOU DIDN'T READ
THE ARTICLE,I'LL SUM IT UP IN TWO WORDS,"HE'S GREAT").ROGER McDOWELL
IS A GOOD PITCHER AND WILL BE EFFECTIVE AS A RIGHT-HANDED STOPPER.
    I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THE MET'SDDS HITTING.THEY'VE
BEEN TOGETHER FOR A YEAR.THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE LINE-UP SHOULD
BE ABLE TO CREATE RUNS,BUT CAN THEY STAY TOGETHER.CAN THY DDEY COMPLEMENT
EACH OTHER?I THINK SO.DARRYL WILL BE AWESOME.CARTER SHOULD HAVE THE
BEST YEAR OF HIS CARRER.D(HE REALLY WANTS WINDDDTO WIN THAT SERIS IN OCTOBER).
HERNANDEZ IS HERNANDEZ,ALWAYS MR.CONSISTENCE,NO PROBLEM THERE.WE'LL
HAVE FOSTER FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.BACKMAN 
AND SANTANA ARE SOLID PLAYERS AND SHOULD HIT A CONSISTENT .270 D.MOOKIE
MIGHT HAVE SOME PROBLEMS NEXT YEAR D,BUT HE CAN BE RESTED BECAUSE OF 
LEN DYKSTRSDA.
    WITH ALL THIS TALEMDNT,THE METS NEED SOMEONE TO DIRECT IT.DAVEY
JOHNSON IS DOING A GOOD LDJOB,BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE METS LOST SOME
GAMES LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF HIM.LOOSEN UP,DAVEY!!LETS GO METS!!

jimb@ISM780B.UUCP (01/22/86)

Just like a New Yorker.  Blast out a series of questionable assertions,
shouting (writing in all-caps) the message on the presumption that "Loud
means truth."  Feh!

I think the Cards, Cubs, and Expos may have something to say about the race
before it's over.  Then again, I think the parochial, circumscribed view of
New Yawkers entitles them to play in a division of one.  They can meet the
other division of one -- the Yankees -- in the Toilet Bowl.


      -- from the bewildered musings of Jim Brunet

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tim@fisher.UUCP (Tim Snyder) (01/22/86)

> 
>     THE WINNER OF THE 1986 NATIONAL LEAGUE(AND THE WORLD CHAMPIONS
> OF BASEBALL) WILL BE THE NEW YORK METS.THE METS WILL CLICK THIS
> YEAR.WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE DOCTOR BUT DID ANYBODY KNOW THAT RON
> DARLING WON 17 GAMES LAST YEAR?IF HE WORKS ON HIS SPLIT-FINGER
> FASTBALL AND CONSISTENTLY GETS HIS CURVE OVER,THE METS WILL HAVE
> THE BEST NUMBER TWO STARTER IN BASEBALL...
>

...with the exception of Dan Petry, of course.

					       Tim Snyder
                                                 (Go, D!)

flynn@acf2.UUCP (Susan Flynn) (01/23/86)

	You must have never been to New York or you would not deny us our
one pleasure. The Giants and Jets have moved to New Jersy. Steinbrenner has
made being a Yankee fan unbearable. And even Patric Ewing can't save the Nicks.
Every day as I unlock my metal gate, shove the wino off my front stoop, and
scan the block for muggers the only thing that keeps me going is the thought
that spring training is not that far off. The Mets are the only thing this
town has going for your average man. Listening to Tim McCarver on the TV makes
me forget the metal bars on my window. Sitting in Shea with the planes roaring
overhead makes me forget the dirt and the grime. If Mets fans are a little
overbearing, forgive us. Allow us our delusions it's the only fun we have.
	The Mets will win the pennant again this year - they have to

abgamble@water.UUCP (abgamble) (01/24/86)

> 
> I think the Cards, Cubs, and Expos may have something to say about the race
> before it's over. 

As an Expo fan, I hope you're right. Unfortunatly, I suspect the Expos
won't be able to stay very close this year. Everyone always says that
a team must be "strong up the middle", but look at who the Expos have.
Fitzgerald, Brooks, and Winningham. (That's right, the debris of the Carter
fiasco)  

The pitching  will be strong (especially since the Gullickson trade), but
the offence disappears after Tim Raines. Look for Montreal to finish third
or fourth.

-- 

                          - Bruce Gamble 
                            ihnp4!watmath!water!abgamble
 

franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) (01/28/86)

In article <2610006@acf2.UUCP> flynn@acf2.UUCP (Susan Flynn) writes:
>	You must have never been to New York or you would not deny us our
>one pleasure. The Giants and Jets have moved to New Jersy. Steinbrenner has
>made being a Yankee fan unbearable. [...]
>	The Mets will win the pennant again this year - they have to

No Chicago team has won the World Series since 1917.  I for one think it's
about time.

Frank Adams                           ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka
Multimate International    52 Oakland Ave North    E. Hartford, CT 06108

(Having the Bears win is very nice, but I'm a Cubs fan, more than all the
other teams put together.  The Cubs last won the World Series in 1908.)

flynn@csd2.UUCP (Susan Flynn) (01/30/86)

	It seems that the above response was attached to the wrong note on
some machines. It is suppose to be a response to the response to "The 1986
Mets".

pete@umcp-cs.UUCP (Pete Cottrell) (01/31/86)

>
>Listening to Tim McCarver on the TV makes
>me forget the metal bars on my window. Sitting in Shea with the planes roaring
>overhead makes me forget the dirt and the grime. 

God, what an awful situation. When are you up for parole?
-- 
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flynn@csd2.UUCP (Susan Flynn) (02/01/86)

	In New York we use metal bars to keep the crimals out, not in.

p.s. We must stop all this Met talk on the net. Every time I write a note I
keep imagining I hear all those Cards fans saying "The net gives those Mets
too much coverage. I've had it. I'm switching to VMS."

flynn@csd2.UUCP (Susan Flynn) (02/01/86)

p.p.s. I'll be ready to move out of New York back to D.C. as soon the
Senators come back.

nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (02/03/86)

In article <2610006@acf2.UUCP> flynn@acf2.UUCP (Susan Flynn) writes:
>	You must have never been to New York or you would not deny us our
>one pleasure. The Giants and Jets have moved to New Jersy. Steinbrenner has
>made being a Yankee fan unbearable. [...]

No comment about Steinbrenner, but the Jets moving away from New York?
From central Manhattan, it takes ~15 minutes to reach the Meadowlands.
It is usually ~1 hour + to Shea, if I lived there you can guess where
I'd rather go to see a game.

Besides, if the Giants and Jets are no longer New York teams,
1) Why are they still the New York Giants/Jets,
2) Why is Ed Koch betting on these teams with mayors of Boston,
San Francisco, and Chicago (a bad thing to do in my opinion, it
only encourages gambling.)?

Of course, to be consistant, they should be the Irving Cowboys,
Foxboro Patriots, etc.

>	The Mets will win the pennant again this year - they have to

Hmm.  Sorry, but I think I'd expect the Expos.  After all, they lost
out twice to teams having "career years", so why not again?  Of
course, the Expos will lose to the Dodgers, who will then lose to
Detroit.  Ho hum, I guess I just ended the season and we can all
go home now.
-- 
James C. Armstrong, Jnr.	{ihnp4,cbosgd,akgua}!abnji!nyssa

"But Doctor, we're on that island!"
"Oh my word!"			who said them, what story?

wlb@rruxo.UUCP (B Boutin) (02/04/86)

>>	The Mets will win the pennant again this year - they have to

>Hmm.  Sorry, but I think I'd expect the Expos.  After all, they lost
>out twice to teams having "career years", so why not again?

Yes, they did indeed loose out twice to teams having "career years",
but who came in second?

METS in '86!
-- 
Bill Boutin, Bell Communications Research, Inc., 
444 Hoes Lane, Room 4D-336, Piscataway, NJ, 08854
201-699-4700

pavo@loral.UUCP (not_responsible_for_lost_or_stolen_items) (02/06/86)

I don't know about the rest of you, but i read net.sport.baseball for something
besides a lot of Mets trivia.  There's a lot of other teams in baseball, if
i'm not mistaken.  in fact, we have one right here where i live.  they're
called the padres.  up the road we have the much hated boys in blue, who
regularly win the NL West by default.  How about the rest of you, aren't
there baseball teams in Chicago?  Atlanta?  Minneapolis?

just so i haven't completely wasted your time; the Padres made very few
trades this winter (they just signed Dane Iorg [last year's WS hero] as
a pinch hitter; hopefully he'll do better than Al Bumbry, who was here long
enough to hit 178 and grab a cup of coffee), and what with the strengthening
of the Reds pitching staff, I am looking forward to a long season.

goin' to Yuma at the end of march for spring training.  get in a little
comet watching, too.  bring on the boys of summer!!!

		jim

ins_alhg@jhunix.UUCP (Louis H Griffel) (02/08/86)

In article <1097@mmintl.UUCP> franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) writes:
>In article <2610006@acf2.UUCP> flynn@acf2.UUCP (Susan Flynn) writes:
>>	You must have never been to New York or you would not deny us our
>>one pleasure. The Giants and Jets have moved to New Jersy. Steinbrenner has
>>made being a Yankee fan unbearable. [...]
>>	The Mets will win the pennant again this year - they have to
>
>No Chicago team has won the World Series since 1917.  I for one think it's
>about time.
>
Why? No Cleveland team has had a winning record in ages, should we all
root for Cleveland too?  GO METS!!!!

gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) (02/09/86)

> From: flynn@acf2.UUCP (Susan Flynn)

>	The Mets will win the pennant again this year - they have to

I have seen the first of the Baseball Predictions type magazines on the
racks this weekend and one of them said as much, that 1986 was going to
be a make-or-break year for the Mets.  Gone are the days when Met fans
used to root harder after a loss.  Two years of second-place finishes
have made Met fans hungry.  They will demand a pennant of them at least.
Anything less could be very detrimental to the Mets, and Davey Johnson
in particular.  He's been given pretty much a free hand in running the
club, but another second-place finish may move Frank Cashen to take a
more active interest in the club, a la Steinbrenner.

Of course, being a lifelong Met fan, I am biased, and naturally I expect
them to go as far as to get into the World Series.  I base my
predictions on the fact that Carter and Strawberry will both be well for
at least 140 games each, that Gooden will win at least 20, and that
Darling and Fernandez will mature into high-tenn or 20-game winners
themselves.  Too bad there isn't a DH, because George Foster could add a
few more years onto his career as a Met DH.  But maybe they can trade
him to someone in the AL for a third baseman if HoJo doesn't deliver.

Andujar's 21 wins will be sorely missed by the Cards.  That, and the
fact that they just *can't* have as good a season as they had last year
(Herr drive in over 100 runs again?), plus the fact that the Mets were
20-23 without Strawberry, leads me to believe that they will take the
pennant.

Subway Series fans, don't give up hope!  Alas, I won't be able to see it
(except for Games of the Week) unless they bring WOR to my cable company
in Mountain View.
-- 
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
{decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds
gds@eddie.mit.edu

dday@gymble.UUCP (02/12/86)

In article <117@mit-eddie.UUCP> gds@mit-eddie.UUCP writes:
>Too bad there isn't a DH, because George Foster could add a
>few more years onto his career as a Met DH.  But maybe they can trade
>him to someone in the AL for a third baseman if HoJo doesn't deliver.
 
Dream on, Met fan!  It's true Foster has some residual value as a DH, but
$2 million a year?  No way.  What GM in his right mind is going to trade
a decent third baseman (of which there are currently few) for an aging DH
who gets paid that kind of money?  I don't think the Mets could GIVE him away
unless they assume a substantial chunk of his salary.
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