shelton@bnrmtv.UUCP (Marilyn Shelton) (02/15/86)
The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? Thanks.
saohn@ihlpg.UUCP (Ohnsman) (02/16/86)
> The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The > answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that > the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. > If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? > > Thanks. You're correct, but this shows how often the Senators moved around. Bob Short, the long-hated villain in D.C., was responsible for one move. The next trivia question is who is responsible for the other???
woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) (02/16/86)
> The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The > answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that > the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. > If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? Both answers are correct. There were *two* incarnations of the Senators; one went to Minnesota, and the later one to Texas. --Greg
wjh@bonnie.UUCP (Bill Hery) (02/17/86)
> > The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The > > answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that > > the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. > > If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? > > You're correct, but this shows how often the Senators moved around. > But they weren't the same Senators. After the old Senators move to Minn. a new team was formed and given the old name. The eventually moved to Texas.
pete@umcp-cs.UUCP (Pete Cottrell) (02/17/86)
In article <255@bnrmtv.UUCP> shelton@bnrmtv.UUCP writes: >The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The >answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that >the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. >If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? > >Thanks. The original Washington Senators left for Minnesota and were replaced by an expansion franchise, also named the Senators. This team played in D.C. through the 1971 season, and then broke my heart by leaving for Texas, becoming the Rangers. -- Call-Me: Pete Cottrell, Univ. of Md. Comp. Sci. Dept. UUCP: seismo!umcp-cs!pete CSNet: pete@umcp-cs ARPA: pete@mimsy.umd.edu
mading@puff.UUCP (Eric Mading) (02/17/86)
In <255@bnrmtv.UUCP> a "Trivial Pursuit error" was revealed, or was it? There were actually two Washington Senators baseball teams. One of them was formed in 1961 when the original Senators moved to Minnesota. That team moved to Texas to become the Rangers in 1972.
mlt@mb2c.UUCP (Mark L. Tompkins) (02/17/86)
> The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The > answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that > the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. > If I am correct, what is the *right* answer? Both answers are correct. The Senators team that moved to Texas in the early seventies was the second version of the Senators. The original Senators did indeed move to Minneapolis in the early sixties and became the Twins. The second version of the Senators, I believe, were part of the American League expansion for the 1969 season, which also saw the birth of the Kansas City Royals ( the A's moved to Oakland ) and the one year version of the Seattle Pilots. Mark
shari@rosevax.UUCP (Shari Nelson) (02/18/86)
> The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The > answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that > the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. > If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? > > Thanks. The Twins DID orignate in D.C. as the Wash. Senators. Calvin Griffith, the Twins former owner moved them to the Twin Cities in 1961. The Twins went to the Series in 1965 and haven't been heard from since!!! -- ..!ihnp4!rosevax!shari Shari Nelson Rosemount Inc. 12001 W. 78th St. Eden Prairie, Mn. 55344 A MINNESOTA GOPHER fan forever!!! [5m [7m GO GOLDEN GOPHERS [m
boucher@hsi.UUCP (Keith Boucher) (02/18/86)
> The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The > answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that > the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. > If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? > > Thanks. The original Washington Senators moved to Minnesota in 1961 and became the Minnesota Twins. The AL expanded that year and franchises were awarded to Washington and Los Angeles. The nickname for the Washington team was the Senators. This team played in Washington from 1961 to 1971 and then moved to Texas for the 1972 season and became the Texas Rangers. In summary, the Minnesota Twins franchise played in Washington until the final season in 1960. The Texas Rangers franchise played in Washington from the first season of 1961 until the last season of 1971.
stevev@tekchips.UUCP (Steve Vegdahl) (02/18/86)
> > The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The > > answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that > > the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. > > If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? > > > > Thanks. > > You're correct, but this shows how often the Senators moved around. > > Bob Short, the long-hated villain in D.C., was responsible for one > move. The next trivia question is who is responsible for the other??? There were two Washington Senators franchises. The first was there from time immemorial until 1960, when Calvin Griffith (if I'm not mistaken) moved them to Minnesota and changed their name to be the Twins. This coincided with an American League expansion year; the city of Washington got one of the expansion franchises and the team was again named the Senators. This team was later moved to Texas, leaving Washington without a MLB team. If Washington should again get a franchise, I would suggest that, in light of the decline in importance of senators in the political process, the team be named the Washington Supreme Court Justices or the Washington Political Action Committees :-). Steve Vegdahl Computer Research Lab. Tektronix, Inc. Beaverton, Oregon
dietz@dataioDataio.UUCP (Kent E. Dietz) (02/20/86)
In article <255@bnrmtv.UUCP> shelton@bnrmtv.UUCP (Marilyn Shelton) writes: >The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The >answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that >the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. >If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? > >Thanks. The original Washington Senators were owned by the Griffith family and adopted son Calvin moved the team to Minnesota in the late 50's or early 60's. The team was replaced with an expansion team called, oddly enough, the Washington Senators. This team moved to Texas, in the early 70's, I believe. So, the trivial pursuit answer was correct. There was a query on the net recently on the least talked about teams. My nominee was the Twins, until this notice, which also disqualifies the Rangers. Finally, are there any "true" Twins fans out there. As opposed to the fans that will jump on the bandwagon once the Twins start running away with the AL East. Out here in Washington, we don't hear much about the smaller market teams. Kent E. Dietz FutureNet Corp. uw-beaver!entropy!dataio!dietz
jimn@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Jim Nesheim) (02/20/86)
In article <916@dataioDataio.UUCP> dietz@dataio.UUCP (Kent E. Dietz writes: > >..... > >Finally, are there any "true" Twins fans out there. As opposed to the >fans that will jump on the bandwagon once the Twins start running away >with the AL East. Out here in Washington, we don't hear much about the >smaller market teams. > >Kent E. Dietz >FutureNet Corp. >uw-beaver!entropy!dataio!dietz Obviously, not a *true* Twins fan, as he doesn't even know what division they're in! Even if the Twins were in the AL East, how could they possibly 'run away' from the Yankees ?! :^>~ J Nesheim jimn@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu {ihnp4,cmcl2,decvax,vax135}!cornell!bullwinkle!batcomputer!jimn
flynn@acf2.UUCP (Susan Flynn) (02/21/86)
>If Washington should again get a franchise, I would suggest that, in light of >the decline in importance of senators in the political process, the team >be named the Washington Supreme Court Justices or the Washington Political >Action Committees :-). Its already been decided that when Washington gets another team they will be called the Senators. While some cities do name their teams after their most important featue, e.g. the Boston Red Socks, most cities don't. However, if D.C. did it would be called something like the Lobyists or the Moles or the President's wife or even perhaps the Photo Opportunists. Open your season ticket account today.
pete@umcp-cs.UUCP (Pete Cottrell) (02/23/86)
In article <2610007@acf2.UUCP> flynn@acf2.UUCP writes: >>If Washington should again get a franchise, I would suggest that, in light of >>the decline in importance of senators in the political process, the team >>be named the Washington Supreme Court Justices or the Washington Political >>Action Committees :-). > > Its already been decided that when Washington gets another team they >will be called the Senators. > That's news to me. I think there is a lot of sentiment this way, but there doesn't exist any sort of team organization that would officially decide on the name. The existing organization, the D.C. Baseball Commission, is only concerned with the business of attracting a team. >Open your season ticket account today. Good advice. -- Call-Me: Pete Cottrell, Univ. of Md. Comp. Sci. Dept. UUCP: seismo!umcp-cs!pete CSNet: pete@umcp-cs ARPA: pete@mimsy.umd.edu
mcg@sfmin.UUCP (M.McGowan) (02/25/86)
> The question was from where did the Minnesota Twins originate? The > answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that > the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers. > If I am correct, was is the *right* answer? > > Thanks. You probably saw lots of replies. The Washington Senators (of Cal Griffith) went to Minnesota. The Washington Senators (of Bob Short, coincidentally of Minneapolis and truckin' fame) went to Texas, where this pundit labeled them the Texas "Shorthorns", which they have been ever since. Up to date? By the way, the dates: Griffith Senators -- '61 Shorthorns -- c. 70. Real trivia, name a manager of the 'New' Washington Senators. A: Smailliw Det -- -- Marty MCGowan uucp: ...!attunix!mcg phone: 201-522-6092 usps: AT&T IS, 190 River Rd. Summit NJ 07901
jcc@siemens.UUCP (02/26/86)
This is kind of a side question: Didn't the Seattle Pilots leave Seattle in `70 also? Who are they now?
kaufman@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (02/26/86)
> Even if the Twins were in the AL East, how could they possibly 'run away' > from the Yankees ?! One look at George? :-) Yours for a Subway Series, Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman)
credmond@watmath.UUCP (Chris Redmond) (02/28/86)
(Blue Jay kills seagull with foul ball; Winfield chortles.) > > Its already been decided that when Washington gets another team they >will be called the Senators. While some cities do name their teams after their >most important featue, e.g. the Boston Red Socks, most cities don't. However, if >D.C. did it would be called something like the Lobyists or the Moles or the >President's wife or even perhaps the Photo Opportunists. > How can this have been decided already? Surely it isn't even known who would OWN the Washington franchise? Would people on the net enjoy suggesting suitable names for teams in the other cities which have been proposed for expansion -- including Denver, Miami, Tampa, Vancouver, Indianapolis, Buffalo? CAR
pete@umcp-cs.UUCP (Pete Cottrell) (02/28/86)
> > Real trivia, name a manager of the 'New' Washington >Senators. > >A: Smailliw Det Also Jim Lemon, who owned part of the club, and Gil Hodges, who was traded to the Mets and eventually led them to their miracle of 1969. -- Call-Me: Pete Cottrell, Univ. of Md. Comp. Sci. Dept. UUCP: seismo!umcp-cs!pete CSNet: pete@umcp-cs ARPA: pete@mimsy.umd.edu
scfextre@uokvax.UUCP (02/28/86)
If the Twins run away with the AL East, even I will jump on their bandwagon!! A closer look will reveal that they reside in AL West where any team can win it seems.
meehan@ihlpg.UUCP (Meehan) (02/28/86)
> > > Even if the Twins were in the AL East, how could they possibly 'run away' > > from the Yankees ?! > > One look at George? :-) > > Yours for a Subway Series, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Not This Again!!!! The season hasn't even started!.
kaufman@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (03/01/86)
> > > Even if the Twins were in the AL East, how could they possibly 'run away' > > > from the Yankees ?! > > > > One look at George? :-) > > > > Yours for a Subway Series, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Not This Again!!!! The season hasn't even started!. Why not? It's prediction time, right? And I am very tempted to pedict it this year. Besides, what's the matter with non-offensively stating where my loyalties lie? On the subject of baseball, does anyone else think the AL West is going to have a wild-and-wooly race? Post-series complacency may bring the Royals - whose talent probably outclasses the rest of the division's - down a few games, and thereby bring up-and-comers Minnesota, Oakland, and maybe even Seattle into the race. Chicago ought to be solid, and California always finds a way to be in it. Why, even the Rangers may finally be going in the right direction. How's this for a more timely sign-off? :-) Make the playoffs, Whalers! Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman)
jeff@utastro.UUCP (Jeff Brown the Scumbag) (03/01/86)
In article <93800007@siemens.UUCP>, jcc@siemens.UUCP writes: > Didn't the Seattle Pilots leave Seattle in `70 also? Who > are they now? The Milwaukee Brewers. Jeff Brown the Scumbag {allegra,ihnp4}!{noao,ut-sally}!utastro!jeff jeff@astro.UTEXAS.EDU Astronomy Department, U. of Texas, Austin 78712
pete@umcp-cs.UUCP (Pete Cottrell) (03/02/86)
> >This is kind of a side question: > >Didn't the Seattle Pilots leave Seattle in `70 also? Who >are they now? The Pilots played in Seattle in 1969 and became the Milwaukee Brewers in time for the 1970 season. -- Call-Me: Pete Cottrell, Univ. of Md. Comp. Sci. Dept. UUCP: seismo!umcp-cs!pete CSNet: pete@umcp-cs ARPA: pete@mimsy.umd.edu
pvg@mhuxd.UUCP (GERAFFO) (03/03/86)
> > This is kind of a side question: > > Didn't the Seattle Pilots leave Seattle in `70 also? Who > are they now? I believe they moved to Milwaukee and became the Brewers. GO TO HELL CAROLINA - LET'S GO DUKE!
afb@pucc-i (Michael Lewis) (03/03/86)
> Would people on the net enjoy suggesting suitable names for teams in the > other cities which have been proposed for expansion -- including Denver, > Miami, Tampa, Vancouver, Indianapolis, Buffalo? > > CAR The name for the (hypothetical) Indianapolis franchise has already been decided...the Indianapolis Arrows. There is a large group of (potential) investors in place, and they made a strong pitch to Ueberroth. They will have to build *another* new stadium, which seems kind of stupid since the fabulous Hoosier Dome is only three or so years old...I think they built it so it wouldn't meet Baseball guidelines on purpose, to further stimulate the construction industry when a new one would be needed. You can't blame them for being eager, though...the theft of the Colts brought in a bonanza of economic stimuli. By the way, are the Orioles looking for a new home? I'm sure that they would be more enthusiastically received than even the Colts were... Michael Lewis @ Purdue University
sauder@nbs-amrf.UUCP (Jeff Sauder) (03/03/86)
> > > Even if the Twins were in the AL East, how could they possibly 'run away' > > from the Yankees ?! > > One look at George? :-) > > Yours for a Subway Series, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman) But Ken, Baltimore's subway doesn't extend to any other city -- and we only have one baseball team! :-) -- Billy, you're (h/f)ired! Jeff Sauder {seismo,umcp-cs}!nbs-amrf!sauder
pete@umcp-cs.UUCP (Pete Cottrell) (03/06/86)
> >By the way, are the Orioles looking for a new home? I'm sure that they would >be more enthusiastically received than even the Colts were... > God, let's hope not. I've already been through too much trauma of having teams move. The O's have been setting team attendance records, drawing 2+ million the last several years. -- Call-Me: Pete Cottrell, Univ. of Md. Comp. Sci. Dept. UUCP: seismo!umcp-cs!pete CSNet: pete@umcp-cs ARPA: pete@mimsy.umd.edu