credmond@watmath.UUCP (Chris Redmond) (03/01/86)
What is the opinion of people on the net about the traditional question: should Shoeless Joe Jackson be forgiven for whatever part he had in the Black Sox scandal, and admitted to the Hall of Fame in recognition of his otherwise magnificent career? Has his reputation changed in recent years, especially since the publication of W. P. Kinsella's novel Shoeless Joe? If people have comments please post them; if people simply want to say Yes or No and send their votes to me by e-mail I will post the results (if any). Chris (dexvax, ihnp4, allegra) !watmath!credmond
dnichols@ti-csl (03/06/86)
A definite YES for reinstating Joe Jackson and thereby making him eligible for the Hall of Fame. All one has to do is look at his performance in the 1919 Series to see that he did nothing to try to throw any games. Eliot Asinof's "Eight Men Out" provides a very good history of the Black Sox Scandal and the various players parts in it. I believe some of Jackson's descendant's (his son?) having been trying unsuccessfully to have him reinstated for some time. ---------- *USNail* *electronic* Dan Nichols USENET: {ctvax,im4u,texsun,rice}!ti-csl!dnichols POB 226015 M/S 238 ARPA: Dnichols%TI-CSL@CSNet-Relay.ARPA Texas Instruments Inc. CSNET: Dnichols@Ti-CSL Dallas, Texas VOICE: (214) 995-6090 75266 COMPUSERVE: 72067,1465 ----------- He o shite shiri-tsubome!
rupp@noscvax.UUCP (William L. Rupp) (03/06/86)
I think that Shoeless Joe Jackson should be included in the Hall of Fame, even if in a special `purgatory wing'. A couple of comments. First, will Dave Parker, Keith Hernandez and others who have been accused of drug problems be barred because of those troubles? Second, a recent inductee (is that the right word) to the Hall of Fame has been accused of racism for his outrageous treatment of Jackie Robinson in 1947, including attempting deliberately to spike and seriously wound Robinson. That didn't keep him out. On the other hand, Jackson's early banning from baseball clearly helped keep his lifetime batting average higher than it probably would have been had he played five or six more years.
tommyo@ihuxw.UUCP (Tom O`Connor) (03/10/86)
> I think that Shoeless Joe Jackson should be included in the Hall of Fame. > Second, a recent inductee (is that the right word) to the Hall of Fame > has been accused of racism for his outrageous > treatment of Jackie Robinson in 1947, including attempting deliberately > to spike and seriously wound Robinson. That didn't keep him out. > *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** Sorry, but throwing the World Series is a bit different than being a racist. If they banned racists from the Hall of Fame, many of the founding fathers and early superstars (Anson and Cobb, to name just 2) wouldn`t be in there. Jackson was an naive southerner, and though a tremendous player, got involved with something he should have known was wrong, and I can`t support his induction. By the by, for a GREAT book on the 1919 Black Sox, I strongly recommened "Eight Men Out". I`ve read it 3 times, and still pick up little details and get very involvled with the book. Tom O`Connor
dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) (03/11/86)
> By the by, for a GREAT book on the 1919 Black Sox, I strongly > recommend "Eight Men Out". I`ve read it 3 times, and still > pick up little details and get very involvled with the book. > > Tom O`Connor Sounds interesting. Who are the author and publisher?