3363ewf (01/20/83)
Look for the Cowboys to whoop up on the Redskins
Look for the Dolphins to do in the Jets
Look for the Bears to be the team of the future
with J. M. at qb
Look for the New York giants to drop back into oblivion
Can you believe the people that say the NYG are
superbowl bound next year-- they could not even
make this years playoffs.
GO BLUE and NIU
Gene Foster
btl hoewan@uw-june (Ewan Tempero) (11/01/85)
One complaint ( maybe that should read "another complaint" given what
I said last time :-) I have about US soccer is that they play different
rules from the rest of the world, that is, they don't use FIFA rules.
One difference I know about is the way penalties are taken ( as I recall
the US version has a 1-on-1 situation between keeper and penalty taker ).
While this particular instance may not make a major difference to the game,
the fact that there is one difference means there are probably others. This
is bound to alienate other countries against US ( I've often if this affected
US's chances for getting the '86 World Cup ). You may argue that the changes
are for the better, but if every country went ahead and made local changes
which they thought were for the better then we would soon have chaos. I
say follow the Central ruling body.....
[What I said above use to apply.....if it's changed don't flame me, just
*inform* me]
--
Ewan
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Ewan Tempero "Oh no, not again"
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Please check all nuclear arms at the door.dxp@houxf.UUCP (POND SCUM) (11/06/85)
->One difference I know about is the way penalties are taken ( as I recall
->the US version has a 1-on-1 situation between keeper and penalty taker ).
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->Ewan Tempero "Oh no, not again"
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I think Ewan is confusing the "shootout" format with a penalty kick. As
far as I know a penalty kick is still the kick awarded for a direct foul in
the penalty area by the defending team. This kick is taken from 12 yards out
from the goal.
The "shootout" IS an AMERICAN deviation used to settle tied games. All the
rest of the world deems a tied game to be just that a tied game, except for
elimination competition. At the end of regulation time, and over-time the rest
of the world decides the outcome of the game by a replay or when the specified
number of replays have been exhausted the outcome is settled by penalty kicks.
The "shootout" is technically more difficult to score from than a penalty kick
and is visually more interesting( apparently especially to US taste).
I would suspect than a shootout completion( for pros) of 60% would be about
average as opposed to 90% for penalty kicks. You can see where there'd be
make action.
Dave Peak
@ ihnp4!hotel!dxp
"All the net's a stage and all the men and women merely ham actors !"
- Rev Peak (apologies to Bill S.)nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (11/06/85)
>One complaint ( maybe that should read "another complaint" given what >I said last time :-) I have about US soccer is that they play different >rules from the rest of the world, that is, they don't use FIFA rules. A sportswriter I met in Scotland had an epitaph for the NASL, it read something like "The Only Soccer League to last 15 years and never play a single soccer game" >One difference I know about is the way penalties are taken ( as I recall >the US version has a 1-on-1 situation between keeper and penalty taker ). >While this particular instance may not make a major difference to the game, >the fact that there is one difference means there are probably others. This rule (the shoot out to break ties) applied only to the "penalties" taken at the end of the game to decide a winner. Penalties taken during the regulation time were the same as in the rest of the world. >This >is bound to alienate other countries against US ( I've often if this affected >US's chances for getting the '86 World Cup ). You may argue that the changes >are for the better, but if every country went ahead and made local changes >which they thought were for the better then we would soon have chaos. I >say follow the Central ruling body..... Among the other changes: 1. No ties allowed. If the scores are level after 90 minutes, play 15 minutes of OT, if still level, go to the shootout. The OT ends as soon as somebody scores. Comment: Normally, ties are allowed during the regualr season, many tournaments allow ties, which leads to replays. If there is overtime, it lasts 30 minutes REGARDLESS of whether or not somebody scores. Remember the France-West Germany semifinal in Spain 3 years ago? It was 1-1 after 90 minutes, then in extra time, France moved out to a 3-1 lead, onbly to give up two late goals to West Germany and lose in penalty kicks. Under NASL rules, the game would have ended 2-1 to France. 2. Two legged tournaments did not have an "aggragate" rule. In 1980 (?) Cosmos lost to Minnesota 9-2 in Minnesota, then won in New Jersey 2-0. Under normal rules of conduct for two legged ties, Minnesota would have advanced to the next round, 9-4. Instead, Minnesota and Cosmos played a 30 minute "mini-game", which ended up 0-0, and a shoot out (which the Cosmos won), to decide the results. This rule was changed to be best 2 out of 3 games. 3. Three substitutes were allowed. Although this is a variable, league matches are held with a maximum of 2 subs (one in England!). Further- more, these subs are designated before the game, as opposed to chosen from a pool. 4. The offsides line was moved from midfield to 35 yards from the end line. All these changes applied to the NASL. Other places tried much better to follow the FIFA rules. (At Duke, the only differences I recall are that you have unlimited substitution. This I think is OK in a "learning" environment.) >Please check all nuclear arms at the door. I don't carry any. -- James C. Armstrong, Jnr. {ihnp4,cbosgd,akgua}!abnji!nyssa "All these corridors look the same to me!" Who said it, what story?