[net.unix] Berkeley License

Nemnich@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA (11/26/83)

From:   Bruce Nemnich <Nemnich@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA>

How is Berkeley 4.2bsd licensed to non-educational entities, and at what
cost?  I presume one first obtains a source license from Western
Electric, but for what system?

obrien%rand-unix@sri-unix.UUCP (11/27/83)

	To get Berkeley 4.2BSD (the only form now being
distributed for VAXen) you need a) a source license for System
III or System V from AT&T, b) a signed Berkeley license
agreement, and c) $600 (I think) sent cash-in-advance to
Berkeley.

	Some folks have problems signing the Berkeley agreement
due to the "hold harmless" clause which the U. of Cal. lawyers
have insisted be inserted.

gwyn%brl-vld@sri-unix.UUCP (11/27/83)

From:      Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) <gwyn@brl-vld>

Although a UNIX/32V license will suffice for 4.2BSD, it will not for
later BSDs and is not significantly cheaper than a UNIX System V
license (which will let you import my Sys V emulation for BSD too).

jjd%bbn-unix@sri-unix.UUCP (11/28/83)

From:  James J. Dempsey <jjd@bbn-unix>

I have heard that DEC will be selling "Ultrix" (?), an "enhanced" version
of Berkeley 4.2 UNIX.  I assume DEC would not be able to sell Berkeley
UNIX without getting around the "hold harmless" clause in the license
agreement.  Does anyone have any details about this?  Does anyone know when
DEC plans to start shipping this product?

		--Jim--

mark@umcp-cs.UUCP (11/29/83)

Correction to recent misinformation about the Berkeley 4.2 unix license.

You can get it with a 32V or version 7 unix license, not just system
III or V as was stated.

The cost is $750, not $600.
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lee@ut-ngp.UUCP (William L. Lee III) (11/30/83)

I thought someone would post the correct information by now but since they
haven't, here it is. You can get 4.2 with the following:
1) a 32V, System 3, or System 5 license. 32V is sufficient. There are many
   rumors going around that 4.3 BSD will require a System 5 license but
   a 32V license will get you 4.2 BSD.
2) $750 in advance (not $600, that was for 4.1).
3) You sign the Berkeley license agreement. There used to be a clause that
   said any disagreements (or lawsuits) will be decided under the laws of
   California but Berkeley has agreed to strike that clause (it's still
   in the agreement they send you so you have to cross it out and initial
   it). This clause was the only tough part of the Berkeley license so
   you shouldn't have any problem signing it now.

If you do these 3 things, you will receive in the mail (after N months)
a 35 pound box with 2 tapes and the 4.2 manuals (2 sets, a single sided
duplication master for Volume 1 and Volume 2C and a double sided set for
sticking in a binder as soon as you get it. Volume 2A and Volume 2B are
straight Version 7 manuals).