[net.unix] Pipe buffering query

jpm@bnl.UUCP (John McNamee) (11/24/83)

I have a need to pass the input of an interactive program
(a BASIC interpreter) thru a filter to block certain
characters. I find that if I use a pipe to do the filtering
my input is buffered and the interactive nature of the final
program is lost (try "cat|mail" to read your mail and you
can see what I mean).

Given I set up the pipe with "a | b" is there any way for
the standard output of "a" to become immediately available
on the standard input of "b"?


John McNamee
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per@erix.UUCP (Per Hedeland XT/DU) (11/25/83)

The problem is not the buffering in the pipe, but the buffering done by
the stdio package when standard output isn't a terminal.  Provided you
can modify the source code of the filter, the fix is simple. Just insert:
	setbuf(stdout, NULL);
before you start writing to stdout; this makes stdout unbuffered.

(BTW, 'cat -u | mail' works (almost) fine.)

Per Hedeland
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suitti@pur-phy.UUCP (Stephen K. Uitti) (11/30/83)

 Given I set up the pipe with "a | b" is there any way for
 the standard output of "a" to become immediately available
 on the standard input of "b"?

	Rather than unbuffer the stdio, as was suggested, use fflush() on
the pipe when done with a line or message.  If only one character is to
be processed at a time, maybe unbuffered I/O is what is needed.  You will
find that unbuffered I/O is SLOW.  You do a painful system call for each
character.  The UN*X kernel really would rather that you send a buch of
characters at a time.  "fflush" flushes the buffer & waits until the data
is written.  It should be documented in chapter 3 of the manuals, which
we call "c-callable subroutines".

Stephen Uitti (Purdue physics site manager)
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