eric@gang.UUCP (Eric Kiebler) (05/04/84)
[sigh] Had a chance to see a 3B2/300, sort of. It had not much resemblence to what I was expecting at all. The basic guts of the machine look okay, especially the 1-meg "boards" that fit inside. 256-K chippies on both sides of a board about the size of a hair comb. Used modular telephone-type jacks for rs-232. but have the adapters for DB-25 connectors. Basically, looks good. The bad news is the software. First, they unbundled UNIX(tm) SysV into many different sections. Next, you can either purchase a right to use the different packages forever for a fee up front, or you can *rent* the software for a monthly charge. There is an installation charge also, as well as monthly maintenance fees. My observations (and opinions are): 1) The market is clearly the office automation people. People that use UNIX use the utility packages as tools in lots of places. People that use a program which just happens to run under UNIX don't. Unbundling caters to that market. 2) UNIX is not a phone. If AT&T has any chance in this market at all, it is by shirking the "TPC" image and looking like a computer company. Selling software by the month doesn't help that image. I admit that it does have some advantages in the tax domain if it can be considered deductible or depreciable as many leased items can. In the words of a higher-up at our university, however, "Hell, they can't even get the phones to work -- how can they sell computers". 3) What is installation? We distribute software by creating shell scripts to do the installation. AT&T wants lots of money for that. Is using cpio to read a floppy and then running a shell script going to cost me, or is a Field-Oriented Software Installation Specialist going to drive up to my machine and install one for me? Still unclear. 4) What if I don't pay my rent? Do they send the UNIX Police over to break my bits, or is there a /dev/SS which keeps track of my system and payments, and tortures other programs until I pay? (Sorry; a bit too melodramatic, huh?) 5) Universities are going to buy these critters and there will be a rash of PD software to run on them. I can guarantee that the first thing to happen will be clone-packages for the unbundled utilities, because that is what is needed by people wanting to use UNIX. How does that help keep UNIX "pure"? Not at all. Very sad. It is easy to flame Rich Stallman when he treads on the path -- can we find the courage to flame our benevolant benefactor? I understand that the product is on limited-roll-out, and that we should be very happy if we get a chance to touch or smell one. I understand that AT&T is new to this market and that they should be given some slack. To paraphrase Mark Horton concerning netnews, " Ignorance of the rules is no excuse ...". The same applies to marketing. If the office automation market is bigger than the hackers market, then that is the one to chase. It's probably time to find something a bit more esoteric to hack, anyway. Let all the apple and IBMPC kids have UNIX. We lost when the dollars became more important than the product. It always happens that way. In a world where people have to eat, I guess it should happen that way. going to feel better about all this after some Ted Drewes Frozen Custard, eric UNIX is a Trademark of AT&T (Bell Laboratories???) -- from the gang down at... 38.37.45 N 90.12.22 W ..!ihnp4!afinitc!{gang|wucs!gang}!eric Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. Copyright (C) 1984 All Rights Reserved.