[net.unix] Hiding from w

chris@byucsa.UUCP (Chris J. Grevstad) (06/24/84)

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  It is true that you can hide what you are doing from w(1)
by creating a symbolic link.  There is a problem with that
if you interested in having no one know that you are playing
rogue.

  Even wth the symbolic link, *rogue* still shows up in lastcomm.
What I have done is to create a directory in /usr and created a hard
link from there to /usr/games/rogue.  Now, *rogue* will not even appear
in lastcomm.

  We often use either *j* or *readnews* as the linked file.


						   Alen of Three Balls

						   aka : Chris Grevstad
							    Systems Programmer
							    Brigham Young University

ted@usceast.UUCP (Ted Nolan) (06/26/84)

<I'm hiding>

Of course if you have enough disk space and the protection is right, you can 
always cp your favorite game to whatever name you want ..
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west@sdcsla.UUCP (06/28/84)

But what's the big deal?   If someone on your system is running rogue when
your system is lightly loaded, why should anyone care?   Conversely, if the
load is heavy, people may want to identify the cause of the loading, with
and eye to alleviating it (buy a new machine? optimize stdio? encourage users
to come in at night?) -- and rogue is a big hog.   Why encourage people
to avoid responsibility for their actions?

		-- Larry West, UC San Diego, Institute for Cognitive Science
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		-- west@NPRDC

woods@hao.UUCP (Greg "Bucket" Woods) (06/29/84)

  There are *many* reasons I can think of why you cannot openly play games.
In our case, we had to remove all the games on our 11/70 system because
a senior scientist objected. It seems that one time he was present at
a government installation when some government bigwig came in, saw people
playing games, and threatened to cut off funds. I'm sure attitudes like
this are not limited to the government, either. The point is, *I* know that
playing games when no one else is using the system does not interfere with
real work (and costs no more money), and *you* know that, but not all those
in power do, and their opinions are often the only ones that matter. Yes,
Mr. Spock, it is not logical. But it is there nevertheless.

--Greg
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west@sdcsla.UUCP (07/07/84)

A while back, I questioned the propriety of allowing users to hide
their game-playing -- I just didn't see the point, since game-playing
on off-hours has absolutely no deleterious effects on anyone or anything
(except the player), and game-playing during heavy loads isn't something
which should be hidden.

Since then I've received several response from people pointing out my
naivete`.   With real-life examples of administrators and ``stereotypical
MBA types'' who seem not to possess a long-range sense of reasonability.

So I withdraw my statement and promise to look into this ``real world''
thing everyone talks about before I make any further idealistic
pronouncements.   From a distance, of course...

		-- Larry West, UC San Diego, Institute for Cognitive Science
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		-- west@NPRDC

Not everyone can be stupid and correct at the same time.

srini@ut-sally.UUCP (Srinivasan Sundararajan) (07/13/84)

[ I'm getting the Munchies !]

A simpler way, instead of making a symbolic link, is to use a bug (feature ?)
in "w". As only the process with the largest PID gets displayed in "w",
start up "rogue", stop it, start up an innocuos "vi", stop that, and then
bring the first job ,i.e., "rogue", into the foreground .
"w" will then show only the "vi" process.