[net.unix] want new utilities for Berkeley UNIX

perlman@wivax.UUCP (Gary Perlman) (10/06/84)

We are running Berkeley UNIX and I would like to be able to
use the newer utilities on System V.  My understanding is that
because we have a UNIX license, we are allowed to have System
V programs.  Does anyone know the correct procedure for getting
hold of the enhanced utilities (like awk, yacc, lex, m4, troff,
etc., all of which have been improved over the versions sent
out by Berkeley)?

Gary Perlman/Wang Institute/Tyng Road/Tyngsboro, MA/01879/(617) 649-9731

sdyer@bbncca.ARPA (Steve Dyer) (10/06/84)

You've got it backwards, more or less.

A System V license will allow you to run any earlier licensed material,
such as programs from Version 6, PWB, Version 7 and UNIX 32/V and
System III.  Earlier licenses (which are listed here roughly
chronologically) do not give you any rights to System V materials.

A Berkeley 4.1 or 4.2 license only specifies what you may do with the
Berkeley distribution, a prerequisite for which is a UNIX 32/V (or
later) license, since it contains proprietary UNIX sources.

If the Wang Institute has a System V source license, it would also
have the distribution tape, from which you could compile the newer
System V utilities.  There may be some source-level incompatibilities
due to the differences between 4.1 (or 4.2) and System V.  For 4.1,
I expect that the problems will not be extensive; for 4.2, Doug Gwyn
at BRL has a System V compatibility package which allows System V
programs to run under 4.2.

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gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (10/08/84)

If you have just a UNIX/32V license, then no, you are not allowed to
acquire UNIX System V code for your Berkeley UNIX system.  If you
are licensed for UNIX System V, then the easiest way to get the newer
utilities on your system is to import the BRL UNIX System V emulation
for 4.2BSD (if you have 4.1BSD, some adaptation will be necessary).
This includes all UNIX System V utilities that make sense to provide.
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