[net.unix] VME based UNIX? Wanted.

dan@ciprico.UUCP (12/18/84)

Does anyone out there know of any VME based UNIX systems?  We are looking
for kit type systems based on the VME bus.  Cpu/memory/serial cards already
built that we can plug into our VME rack & power supply.  We will take
entire systems also.  Please send me any available information you have on
such beasts...particularly Addresses/Phone numbers/Names.  I would also like
if you told me a little bit about the system...Do you have one?  How do you
like it?  Good system or bad?  What UNIX port?   Reply via the network or
US Mail.   -Dan A. Dickey	ihnp4!umn-cs!ciprico!dan
------
	Ciprico, Inc.		(612) 559-2034
	Attn: Dan A. Dickey
	2405 Annapolis Lane
	Plymouth, MN 55441
------

sde@Mitre-Bedford (12/26/84)

Stride (formerly Sage) makes VME 68000 Unix Machines listing for
something like $3k, $5k, & $50k.
I've never used any of their stuff, but I seem to recall kind words
for them from Jerry Pournelle.

   David   sde@mitre-bedford

malcolm@ecn-ee.UUCP (12/29/84)

From: ciprico!dan 

	Does anyone out there know of any VME based UNIX systems?  

Be sure to talk to Integrated Solutions.  All my literature has been
borrowed so I don't have their phone number here.  They are based
in San Jose and have a Chicago sales office.  Shouldn't have any problems
getting the number from directory assistance.

They make both Q-bus and VME based 68000 systems.  There product is in
the same class as Sun but they seem to have a nicer design.

Drop me a note if you need more information.

								Malcolm

karl@cygnet.CYGNETSYSTEMS (Karl Danz) (12/30/84)

> Does anyone out there know of any VME based UNIX systems?

We have a couple of Motorola VME/10 systems running their
System V UNIX port (distributed by AT&T).  They're not real fast
(30 seconds to compile "hello world" program), but they work.  

The system is 68010 based and uses the 68451 MMU (natch).

They sell two basic models: one has a 15 Megabyte Winchester and 
the other (new) one has a 40 MB disk.  There are five full-width,
and four half-width, unused VME slots available.  The base system
comes with 384K RAM; memory can be added in increments of 256K,
512K, 1M or 2M.  The RAM cards are full-width.  (They are really
shipping the 2 Meg card -- we have one, and it works.)

You can add a "dual serial port" card (half-width, but two slots)
and plug in two terminals (or a terminal and a line to your VAX).
It's a multi-user system, but you'll want to be the only user.

We have had only a few minor problems, such as being forced to 
use a low baud rate (2400) on the line to the VAX -- this is 
apparetnly due to the disk driver polling instead of being
interrupt driven, and Motorola is looking into this for us.
They are supportive and helpful.  They should be; the VME/10
ain't cheap.

					Karl Danz
					Cygnet Systems
					...hplaps!cygnet!karl

pedz@smu.UUCP (01/06/85)

Motorola and Mostek both make boxes based on VME running System V
(so they say)

fred@mot.UUCP (Fred Christiansen) (01/06/85)

Motorola's VME/10 workstation with VME card cage has already been described
by Karl Danz of Cygnet.  It may be of interest that a MVME121 MPU board-based
system was demonstrated last November at Munich, Germany's Electronika '84
running System V Release 2.  The '121 is 68010/68451-based like the VME/10,
but system surrounding the '121 used standard memory, disk, and serial cards
in a rack-mount chassis.  While the VME/10 with Unix is supported now,
the '121 is yet to be released.

To avoid being too parochia I will mention that Force and Mostek advertise
VME systems with Unix.  Also, the most recent issue of Digital Design says
the Sun 2/150 has provisions for VME after-market boards, but this needs
confirming.