[net.unix] CHAOS for 4.2

Walt <Buehring%ti-csl.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA> (01/21/85)

Does anyone have a line on a CHAOSnet package for Berkeley 4.2?  It is my
understanding that the 4.1 version doesn't run under 4.2 w/o much hacking.
It is needed to interface to a local Lisp Machine network.

/Walt/

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ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) (02/06/85)

From Walt Buehring:

>Does anyone have a line on a CHAOSnet package for Berkeley 4.2?  It is my
>understanding that the 4.1 version doesn't run under 4.2 w/o much hacking.
>It is needed to interface to a local Lisp Machine network.

A 4.2 BSD CHAOSnet package is available from Symbolics that works fine.
I'd check with them.

-michael ellis

hammond@petrus.UUCP (02/07/85)

> From Walt Buehring:
> 
> >Does anyone have a line on a CHAOSnet package for Berkeley 4.2?  It is my
> >understanding that the 4.1 version doesn't run under 4.2 w/o much hacking.
> >It is needed to interface to a local Lisp Machine network.
> 
> A 4.2 BSD CHAOSnet package is available from Symbolics that works fine.
> I'd check with them.
> 
> -michael ellis

I'd get the package from Symbolics that implements TCP/IP in place of
CHAOSNET.  When we received Symbolic's 4.2 BSD package, we decided that
it required too many kernel mods (This is critical if you have Pyramids,
CCI and other non-vaxen 4.2 machines).  Also, other boxes that use the
ethernet (and gateways) don't work nicely with CHAOSNET protocols.
Thus, converting the Symbolics machines to a standard protocol is
the better way to go.

Rich Hammond Bell Communications Research

jdb@mordor.UUCP (John Bruner) (02/08/85)

>                                         Also, other boxes that use the
> ethernet (and gateways) don't work nicely with CHAOSNET protocols.
> Thus, converting the Symbolics machines to a standard protocol is
> the better way to go.

Here at the S-1 Project, LLNL, we use both Chaosnet and TCP/IP
on the same Ethernet.  Our 4.2BSD VAXes act as gateways.  I
had very few problems bringing it up from the distribution tape;
although I can see how it would be more difficult on a non-source
and/or non-VAX system.

If you are not already committed to Chaosnet, however, I would
second the suggestion that you convert your Symbolics machine
to TCP/IP.
-- 
  John Bruner (S-1 Project, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory)
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Walt <Buehring%ti-csl.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa> (02/11/85)

I should have been more specific in my previous query about CHAOSnet for
4.2 Unix.  For various reasons we're trying to locate a copy which is
free of Symbolics licensing.  I've heard there is a public domain
version at least for 4.1 but also heard that Symbolics did the 4.2 mods
themselves.

Switching over to TCP/IP is not an option at this time since it is not
yet widly supported on Lisp machines.

Any pointers on how to locate *any* PD CHAOS version are greatly
appreciated.


Up the Internet without a paddle,
/Walt/

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