gam@amdahl.UUCP (gam) (02/21/85)
> - unlike Amdahl's UTS, IX/370 is full duplex and comes with uucp and vi.
*ahem* Amdahl's UTS/F 1.0 *is* full duplex and comes with uucp and vi,
(as well as cu and ct) -- hey, did you think this is just a Vax??!!
(and you should see our benchmarks ...!)
*Plus* we offer source.
*And* The manual pages are on-line.
We also support 3270's as well as full-duplex ascii terminals, and
rje. We even included the games.
We also have 16 MB address space per process.
General availability is 2nd Quarter 85.
Our product is superior to Big Blue's, and I'm not just saying that
because I work here.
Marketing-type questions may be directed to amdahl!nzm10 (Neal Macklin).
--
Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gamphil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) (02/22/85)
> *ahem* Amdahl's UTS/F 1.0 *is* full duplex and comes with uucp and vi, > (as well as cu and ct) -- hey, did you think this is just a Vax??!! > (and you should see our benchmarks ...!) But it only runs at 4800 baud, or at least, their salesman keeps trying to sell me a 4800 baud terminal controller instead of 9600 baud like I want. They say, oh, you won't really notice the difference. At least "amdahl" is an amdahl, unlike "pyramid", which is a vax. Hee hee. -- This is my opinion, I guess. Phil Ngai (408) 749-5720 UUCP: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra}!amdcad!phil ARPA: amdcad!phil@decwrl.ARPA
dob@ihu1n.UUCP (Daniel M. O'Brien) (02/22/85)
> At least "amdahl" is an amdahl, unlike "pyramid", which is a vax. > Hee hee. > > Phil Ngai (408) 749-5720 Sorry, but an amdahl is an ibm! --- Daniel M. O'Brien AT&T Bell Laboratories IH 4A-258 Naperville, IL 60566 ....!ihu1n!dob
gam@amdahl.UUCP (gam) (02/26/85)
> > At least "amdahl" is an amdahl, unlike "pyramid", which is a vax. > > Hee hee. > > Sorry, but an amdahl is an ibm! Whoa, there, young fellah! While Amdahl CPU's are 370 compatable, they are AIR-cooled and are faster than 370's. We don't just make IBM-compatible mainframes. We make them better. (see, I can write ads, too). PS - This is an Amdahl 470/V8 I am typing into. -- Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam
daveb@rtech.ARPA (Dave Brower) (02/28/85)
> But it only runs at 4800 baud, or at least, their salesman keeps trying > to sell me a 4800 baud terminal controller instead of 9600 baud like > I want. They say, oh, you won't really notice the difference. > We have a UTS running under VM on an IBM 433something. The Amdahl full duplex ASCII frontend software runs fine at 9600 baud, but to do so we needed to add an Amdahl 4705E io controllers which is also used for the 3780s attached to CMS. As for speed of user processes, I can't say -- the people running CMS are stingy with the cycles they alot to the UTS virtual machine. -dB -- ---------------- {ucbvax, decvax}!mtxinu!rtech!daveb "The closer you look, the worse it gets."
peterb@pbear.UUCP (03/01/85)
/* Written 3:48 pm Feb 27, 1985 by amdahl!amdca in pbear:net.unix */ >> > At least "amdahl" is an amdahl, unlike "pyramid", which is a vax. >> > Hee hee. >> >> Sorry, but an amdahl is an ibm! > >Whoa, there, young fellah! While Amdahl CPU's are 370 compatable, >they are AIR-cooled and are faster than 370's. > >We don't just make IBM-compatible mainframes. We make them better. > >Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam Uhh, last time I looked, IBM's "370 compatible mainframes" were air cooled. This include all of the 43XX series. Unless you want to tell me that IBM still produces 370 mainframes, I would have to say that your arguement just doesn't hold air :-) Peter Barada ima!pbear!peterb
herbie@watdcsu.UUCP (Herb Chong [DCS]) (03/03/85)
In article <72@pbear.UUCP> peterb@pbear.UUCP writes: >>Whoa, there, young fellah! While Amdahl CPU's are 370 compatable, >>they are AIR-cooled and are faster than 370's. >> >>We don't just make IBM-compatible mainframes. We make them better. >> >>Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam > > Uhh, last time I looked, IBM's "370 compatible mainframes" were > air cooled. This include all of the 43XX series. > > Unless you want to tell me that IBM still produces 370 mainframes, > I would have to say that your arguement just doesn't hold air :-) IBM's 1x5 and 1x8 series of machines were the last to be exclusively air cooled. all 30xx series machines are primarily water cooled with the 3083 having the option of air or water cooling. the 43xx series are air cooled. i ought to know, i've been a systems programmer on all these machines (except the 1x5 series) and have had to poke at the innards occasionally. and i've also poked inside amdahl v6 and v8's too. Herb Chong... I'm user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... UUCP: {decvax|utzoo|ihnp4|allegra|clyde}!watmath!water!watdcsu!herbie CSNET: herbie%watdcsu@waterloo.csnet ARPA: herbie%watdcsu%waterloo.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa NETNORTH, BITNET, EARN: herbie@watdcs, herbie@watdcsu
nzm10@amdahl.UUCP (Neal Macklin) (03/05/85)
> /* Written 3:48 pm Feb 27, 1985 by amdahl!amdca in pbear:net.unix */ > >> > At least "amdahl" is an amdahl, unlike "pyramid", which is a vax. > >> > Hee hee. > >> > >> Sorry, but an amdahl is an ibm! > > > >Whoa, there, young fellah! While Amdahl CPU's are 370 compatable, > >they are AIR-cooled and are faster than 370's. > > > >We don't just make IBM-compatible mainframes. We make them better. > > > >Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam > > Uhh, last time I looked, IBM's "370 compatible mainframes" were > air cooled. This include all of the 43XX series. > > Peter Barada Peter, the IBM machines in the Amdahl class are all water cooled. These are the 308X series and the newly announced 3090 series. -- Neal Macklin (408) 737-5214 ...{hplabs,ihnp4}!amdahl!nzm10 [The opinions expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of Amdahl Corporation, its management, or employees.]
hal@cornell.UUCP (Hal Perkins) (03/08/85)
>> Uhh, last time I looked, IBM's "370 compatible mainframes" were >> air cooled. This include all of the 43XX series. > >IBM's 1x5 and 1x8 series of machines were the last to be exclusively >air cooled. all 30xx series machines are primarily water cooled with >the 3083 having the option of air or water cooling. the 43xx series >are air cooled. i ought to know, i've been a systems programmer on all >these machines (except the 1x5 series) and have had to poke at the >innards occasionally. and i've also poked inside amdahl v6 and v8's too. The 4300s are air cooled, but most of the large 370s and 30XX machines are water cooled. For instance, Cornell had a 370/168 that sprang a pinhole leak in the cooling system several years ago. The machine was down for days as IBM had to replace many circuit boards and a part of the backplane, as well as fix the cooling radiators. Hal Perkins UUCP: {decvax|vax135|...}!cornell!hal Cornell Computer Science ARPA: hal@cornell BITNET: hal@crnlcs
dob@ihu1n.UUCP (Daniel M. O'Brien) (03/08/85)
> >> Sorry, but an amdahl is an ibm! > > > >Whoa, there, young fellah! While Amdahl CPU's are 370 compatable, > >they are AIR-cooled and are faster than 370's. > > Uhh, last time I looked, IBM's "370 compatible mainframes" were > air cooled. This include all of the 43XX series. > > Peter Barada > ima!pbear!peterb The only IBM 370 mainframes that are air cooled *are* the 43xx series! (Not counting the AT-370, and XT-370 as they aren't considered "mainframes".) The big-ones, the 303x and 30xx series, are all water cooled. --- Daniel M. O'Brien AT&T Bell Laboratories IH 4A-258 Naperville, IL 60566 ....!ihu1n!dob