[net.unix] UUCP-VAX/VMS communication:uucp "g" protocol,kermit:please help!

davison@bnl44.UUCP (Dan Davison) (07/04/85)

Keywords: VMSmail, uucp

Several people at the Stony Brook Computing center-which is *still* not 
getting uucp mail-have come up with an interesting problem.  There is a VAX
or two running a dreadful thing called ALL-IN-ONE.  It's lots of menus and
such and the administrative types like it a lot.  

The problem is twofold: (1) we need a formal definition of the uucp protocol.
From my occasional reading in net.unix-wizards, I gather that there is a
protocol called "g" that is in common use.  However, the SBCC does NOT have
source code for any of UUCP (it's a port of SvR0).  So, I'd like to request
a copy of the protocol from someone out there or a pointer to where it can
be FTP'd from the Arpanet.  (This offer expires at the end of the month,
when I'll be away from the all nets for several months).

Second, before we go an reinvent the wheel, has someone invented/thought
about/speculated about connecting VMSmail (Vaxmail?) whatever it's called to
uucp?  What they want to do is to have the ALL-IN-ONE administrative types
to be able to send mail to the academic types which use Unix, both on 
the Univac and various campus Vaxen (mostly 4.15 BSD-not all of 4.2 works,
or something).

Third, can Kermit be grafted onto uucp as an additional protocol?  The
Kermits here have been jazzed up and are working nicely for transfers to
all the various machines on campus.  Ideally, what the person who has been
assigned to this project wants to do is to have VMSmail<->UUCP, with the
protocol for the transfer, if possible.

Any hints, rumors, slander, or actual fact would be extremely welcome.
If you know about the "g" protocol documentation or have had any experience
with VMS-UUCP communications (no, we don't want to xmodem everything
around; is there a VMS Level 4.x implementation of UUCP?) please send mail
to the following addresses:
  ...decvax!philabs!sbcs!sbccsx!lbx
  ...decvax!philabs!sbcs!bnl44!lbx or
                              !pmb
  ...decvax!philabs!sbcs!bnl44!davison
arpa: davison@bnl44.arpa or davison@sumex-aim.arpa
csnet: thru your favorite relay
bitnet: kmarcu@sbbiovm.bitnet (very new-only yalevm & CUNY know about this
                                connection at the moment)
       or mehcoib@sbbiovm.bitnet, ditto
       or genetics@sbbiovm.bitnet, also ditto

Thanks very much for you patience in reading this!
dan davison
"deputy assistant junior guru"