jr@sesame.UUCP (Jim Rosenberg) (07/28/85)
My news address is somewhat unstable, so please excuse if this question was
just answered on the net. I seem to recall someone asking about Xinu a few
weeks back. I would like to get in touch with anyone hacking Xinu. I
understand that there is a tape with the source code available, but you need a
Unix source license (which I don't have) because the cross-development tools
have AT&T code in them. Does anyone have a machine readable form of just the
published code? Am particularly interested in a port to the 8086 instruction
set.
Is there such a thing as a Xinu users group? Any interest in one? I'm
intrigued by the idea of somehow making Xinu and MS-DOS co-resident in some
fashion -- and just using the native DOS file system as is. If anyone is
doing this I'd love to be in touch.
If you know where I can get the Xinu code, or just want to correspond,
please reply by uucp-mail to the address below because I read news on
out-of-town machines by long distance. Thanks.
Jim Rosenberg
Voice: (412) 785-2806
uucp: {decvax!idis,allegra}!pitt!amanuen!jr
CIS: 71515,124
USsnail: R. D. #1 Box 236, Grindstone, PA 15442frodo@wcom.UUCP (Jim Scardelis) (07/30/85)
> My news address is somewhat unstable, so please excuse if this question was > just answered on the net. I seem to recall someone asking about Xinu a few > weeks back. I would like to get in touch with anyone hacking Xinu. I > understand that there is a tape with the source code available, but you need a > Unix source license (which I don't have) because the cross-development tools > have AT&T code in them. Does anyone have a machine readable form of just the > published code? Am particularly interested in a port to the 8086 instruction > set. > Is there such a thing as a Xinu users group? Any interest in one? I'm > intrigued by the idea of somehow making Xinu and MS-DOS co-resident in some > fashion -- and just using the native DOS file system as is. If anyone is > doing this I'd love to be in touch. > If you know where I can get the Xinu code, or just want to correspond, > please reply by uucp-mail to the address below because I read news on > out-of-town machines by long distance. Thanks. > > Jim Rosenberg You don't need an AT&T license...there is NO Unix code involved. The source code is available from Prentice-Hall, Inc. on a 9 track tar format tape. When I get to my office tomorrow, I'll look up the ISBN number on my tape. Of course, the source code is also in the book: "Operating System Design - the XINU Approach" by Douglas Comer Published by Prentice-Hall, Inc., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632 ISBN 0-13-637539-1 (my wife works for Prentice-Hall). -- Jim Scardelis uucp: {vax135|ihnp4}!timeinc!wcom!frodo ARPA: 1891@NJIT-EIES.MAILNET@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA "The opinions expressed herein are those of my computer, and not necessarily those of myself, Warner Computer Systems, or any other computer or company along the line. "
frodo@wcom.UUCP (Jim Scardelis) (07/30/85)
> > When I get to my office tomorrow, I'll look up the ISBN number > on my tape. Of course, the source code is also in the book: > > "Operating System Design - the XINU Approach" > by Douglas Comer > Published by Prentice-Hall, Inc., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632 > ISBN 0-13-637539-1 > The ISBN for the tape is 0-13-972076-6 . -- Jim Scardelis uucp: {vax135|ihnp4}!timeinc!wcom!frodo ARPA: 1891@NJIT-EIES.MAILNET@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA "The opinions expressed herein are those of my computer, and not necessarily those of myself, Warner Computer Systems, or any other computer or company along the line. "
kurt@wucs.UUCP (Kurt H. Haserodt) (07/31/85)
Regarding Xinu Jim Scardelis writes: > > You don't need an AT&T license...there is NO Unix code involved. >The source code is available from Prentice-Hall, Inc. on a 9 track tar >format tape. > > When I get to my office tomorrow, I'll look up the ISBN number >on my tape. Of course, the source code is also in the book: > > "Operating System Design - the XINU Approach" > by Douglas Comer > Published by Prentice-Hall, Inc., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632 > ISBN 0-13-637539-1 > >(my wife works for Prentice-Hall). >-- We were asked for a copy of our Unix License when we ordered the tape from PH. At that time the tape cost $65. It contains the full Xinu source, as seen in the above referenced book, but it also contains source for an lsi11 assembler and a C compiler. The compiler looks a good bit like the V7 PDP11 C compiler (i.e. not like the portable C compiler), so I would think that a license would be required. I believe we only had to show that we had a V7 license. PH might now have a Xinu-only tape without the development tools for which they do not require a license, but, in the past, they did have the tape we ordered from them, and they did require proof of a Unix license. -- Kurt Haserodt ..!ihnp4!wucs!kurt Box 1045 Washington University (314)-889-6160 St. Louis, MO 63130 USA
rbt@sftig.UUCP (R.Thomas) (08/01/85)
> PH might now have a Xinu-only tape without the development tools for which they > do not require a license, but, in the past, they did have the tape we ordered > from them, and they did require proof of a Unix license. > -- > > Kurt Haserodt ..!ihnp4!wucs!kurt > Box 1045 Washington University (314)-889-6160 > St. Louis, MO 63130 USA I just got thru taking an 'Operating Systems Design' course given at Bell Labs by Comer, and I asked him if there was a sanitized version of the tape available. He said 'No.' and implied that there were no plans to produce one. On the other hand, he said that you could write to him and ask for a special tape if you wanted something other than the Prentice-Hall version. I got he impression that he intended that to mean the i8086 or M68K versions, not a sanitized LSI11 version, but maybe if enough of us write and ask, he will get the message. He is a nice friendly person and a good teacher, so be nice to him. Don't flame. OK? Enjoy! Rick Thomas ihnp4!attunix!rbt
dr_d@sftig.UUCP (D.Donahue) (08/07/85)
> > My news address is somewhat unstable, so please excuse if this question was > > just answered on the net. I seem to recall someone asking about Xinu a few > > weeks back. I would like to get in touch with anyone hacking Xinu. I > > understand that there is a tape with the source code available, but you need a > > Unix source license (which I don't have) because the cross-development tools > > have AT&T code in them. Does anyone have a machine readable form of just the > > published code? Am particularly interested in a port to the 8086 instruction > > set. > > Is there such a thing as a Xinu users group? Any interest in one? I'm > > intrigued by the idea of somehow making Xinu and MS-DOS co-resident in some > > fashion -- and just using the native DOS file system as is. If anyone is > > doing this I'd love to be in touch. > > If you know where I can get the Xinu code, or just want to correspond, > > please reply by uucp-mail to the address below because I read news on > > out-of-town machines by long distance. Thanks. > > > > Jim Rosenberg I completed a course taught by Douglas Comer last week (7/29 - 8/2) at Bell Labs. He made reference during the course to the condition that he is a CS Professor at Purdue. He also noted that he makes rather frequent use of the ARPANET. Hint: if you have access to the ARPANET then it shouldn't be too hard to engage in correspondence with him over it. He has a lab set up where there are LOTS of Xinu machines and users. Douglas R. Donahue AT&T Information Systems ..ihnp4!attunix!dr_d