[net.unix] uVAX Ultrix questions

sbw@bocklin.UUCP (10/08/85)

We are purchasing some uVAX II's, but have some questions about
Ultrix.  Any help is appreciated.  Please reply via mail.

  (1) I've been told that Ultrix is pretty faithful to 4.2bsd.
      How faithful?  In particular is there anything left out
      of the distribution.  More specifically, I've been told
      by a DEC engineer that the only supported languages are
      C and assembler.  True?

  (2) Is there support for the KDA50 controller?  How about
      the TSU05 controller?

  (3) How good is the net support?  For example can one do
      rlogins to other uVAXen?  How about to an 11/44 running
      2.9 (assuming the 2.9 networking works..)?

  (4) If C and Assembler are the only supplied languages, how
      hard is it to port the language on the 4.2 distribution
      (e.g. f77, Pascal, Franz LISP, etc.)?  Can one get a
      4.x license based on an Ultrix-32 license?  Or must one
      get a separate AT&T license first?

  (5) Does anyone have a working port of 4.2 or 4.3 to the
      uVAX?  Any problems?  Can we get it?

jaeger@muscat.UUCP (Eric Jaeger) (10/11/85)

> 
>   (1) I've been told that Ultrix is pretty faithful to 4.2bsd.
>       How faithful?  In particular is there anything left out
>       of the distribution.  More specifically, I've been told
>       by a DEC engineer that the only supported languages are
>       C and assembler.  True?
> 
	Ultrix IS 4.2bsd. The fact that DEC does not "support" other
	languages doesn't mean they don't work (they do). Some things 
	are left out or the distribution because they don't fit (do you
	really want 60 floppies?). Copy them from any 4.2 or Ultrix system.

>   (2) Is there support for the KDA50 controller?  How about
>       the TSU05 controller?
> 
	YES.

>   (3) How good is the net support?  For example can one do
>       rlogins to other uVAXen?  How about to an 11/44 running
>       2.9 (assuming the 2.9 networking works..)?
> 
	Net support is complete TCP with ARP. All the "r" commands and
	telnet, ftp, etc, are there and work. If it works on 4.2 ...

>   (4) If C and Assembler are the only supplied languages, how
>       hard is it to port the language on the 4.2 distribution
>       (e.g. f77, Pascal, Franz LISP, etc.)?  Can one get a
>       4.x license based on an Ultrix-32 license?  Or must one
>       get a separate AT&T license first?
> 
	NO PORT IS REQUIRED to more software from 4.2 to Ultrix.
	If You've got enough disk, just rcp or tar them over.
	I'm not really up on the byzantine nature of un*x licenses, but 
	my understanding is you need a SOURCE license to get 4.2 (not
	Ultrix).

>   (5) Does anyone have a working port of 4.2 or 4.3 to the
>       uVAX?  Any problems?  Can we get it?

	Ultrix includes an instruction emulator that is not part of 4.x.
	Could be problems.


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					Eric Jaeger
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