rupp@tetra.UUCP (William L. Rupp) (11/21/85)
I have been trying to communicate from my Mac at home with the UNIX 4.2 system where I work. I am using Red Ryder. My Mac has 128K, and the modem is a 1200 baud Volksmodem. I can login correctly, and evn begin a vi session. The trouble is that some of the vi commands do not work properly with Red Ryder. Using the command key as Control, I try to invoke various keystroke sequences, but unexpected results sometimes occur. The same thing happens with Red. Is anybody familiar with this problem? Are the bugs in Red Ryder perhaps the culprit? Finally, would I be better off using MacTerminal?
cpc@ames-nas.arpa (Chuck Collins) (11/25/85)
My personal choice (and most successful and CHEAPEST) is kermit. It does a good vt100 emulation, and gives you reliable file transfer that you can make UNIX understand. Chuck Collins cpc@ames-nas
cperry@mitre.arpa (Chris Perry) (11/26/85)
Chuck, I told Bob essentially the same thing. I really believe Kermit(0.8) gives a truer vt100 than anything else I've tried -- including FreeTerm 1.7, MacTerminal and MockTerminal. While the file transfer capability isn't 100% proof against line hits, I still prefer it to anything else I've tried. Chris (cperry@mitre.arpa)
berry@tolerant.UUCP (David Berry) (11/27/85)
> I have been trying to communicate from my Mac at home with the UNIX 4.2 > system where I work. I am using Red Ryder. My Mac has 128K, and the modem > is a 1200 baud Volksmodem. I can login correctly, and evn > begin a vi session. The trouble is that some of the vi commands do not > work properly with Red Ryder. Using the command key as Control, I try to > invoke various keystroke sequences, but unexpected results sometimes occur. > The same thing happens with Red. > > Is anybody familiar with this problem? Are the bugs in Red Ryder > perhaps the culprit? Finally, would I be better off using MacTerminal? So far with my copy of Red Ryder (6.2) I have made the following decisions: 1. Don't use the vt100 emulation. Use vt52 instead. The vt100 emulation loops forever when you send it a Delete Line. 2. Tabs are incorrectly implemented in all emulations. Use stty -tabs and everything should work. 3. It is disappointing that it doesn't talk to mac{put,get}. I do, however, have a public domain implementation of xmodem that kind of works. (Anybody out there have a version that really works with Red Ryder, or source for Kermit for a 4.2 BSD system?) Regardless of these draw backs I find it an extremely well done package for the price and would highly recommend it to anyone who needs a terminal emulation package for the mac. Especially, if they don't have one of the copies of MacTerminal that are floating around. Other than -- David W. Berry ...!ucbvax!tolerant!berry [Don't shoot the Tolerant Systems, I'm just the consultant]
naftoli@aecom.UUCP (Robert N. Berlinger) (11/27/85)
> The trouble is that some of the vi commands do not > work properly with Red Ryder. Using the command key as Control, I try to > invoke various keystroke sequences, but unexpected results sometimes occur. > The same thing happens with Red. > > Is anybody familiar with this problem? Are the bugs in Red Ryder > perhaps the culprit? Finally, would I be better off using MacTerminal? I have just tried Red for the first time (I downloaded version 6.2 off of Compuserve which is the latest). Red crashed several times while doing even the simplest things in vi. I guess the vt100 emulation isn't as good as he thinks! I haven't had a chance to call the author up to discuss the bugs yet, which also included a bomb while trying to kermit over a file. -- Robert Berlinger ...{philabs,cucard,pegasus,ihnp4,rocky2}!aecom!naftoli