[net.unix] AT-CLONE, XENIX

andys@men1.UUCP (Andy Sibre) (06/06/86)

                 

    
                  HARDWARE REVIEW (sort of)
           BELL TECHNOLOGIES' AT-CLONE ($4995) with:

72 MB (formatted) H.D., 24 ms. access        60 MB 1/4" tape streamer
6 Port (rs-232) board                        SCO SYS V Rel 2.12 (extra $)
8 MHz Clock                                  7 MB ram
1.2 MB floppy                                U.S.Robotics 2400 modem (xtra $)
& all necessary driver software

SPEED:   with little serial I/O going on, it beats a 750 VAX in almost every 
category.   Floating point benchmarks poor until 80287 installed.  With lots 
of  serial  I/O  going on,  such as 3 other users  catting  bigfiles,  speed 
degrades  noticeably.   "Make"s  take about as long on clone as  on  lightly 
loaded VAX (1-2 users),  again with the caveat that the clone not be getting 
beaten up by heavy serial I/O.   Serial board is of the extremely dumb type, 
no on-board smarts,  so use of smarter board (CompuTone,  etc) might improve 
things a bit.  With 1 make, 3 edit sessions, and someone dialed in trying to 
mail  something  to  East Chickenswitch,  machine is usably  quick  for  all 
concerned.

BACKUP:   The tape is a wonderful thing.   I know that no one else has  ever 
thought "rm temp*" and typed "rm temp *",  but it's da**ed nice when all you 
have to do is grab last nite's tape 'n say "tar x <whole_da**ed_directory>", 
and  actually HAVE it in the machine again within 5 minutes!  The data  rate 
seems to be around 650K / minute when making a tar tape.   Tapes readable by 
Altos, & a number of other UNI-Boxes.

SERIAL I/O:  As said, dumb cards run slow, but don't try to substitute their 
own brilliant ideas for mine. (ahem!)  The Bell card comes with their driver 
which STILL seems to have a few aspects of interest to entymologists.  First 
and  second releases of driver were a disaster,  3rd seems pretty stable  if 
terminal is decent.   Works great w/ vt-100's, vt-220's, horrible with Tandy 
dt-100's.   Latter  gets  screen garbaged if I type while clone is  painting 
screen.  Modem I/O perfect.

DISK:   Bell sells a Toshiba 86 MB (unformatted) ST-506 interface drive that 
is the finest I have ever seen.  FAST !!! In 2 months of use, I have had NOT 
ONE  error of any kind on disk I/O.   4 sec.  to copy 300K shar file from  1 
filesystem  to  another.   Bell sells w/ drive a modified ROM  with  altered 
drive table entry that supports 830 cylinders and 10 surfaces, so if you get 
SCO  Xenix instead of MicroPort UNIX,  you can still get  a  semi-reasonable 
sized filesystem.  Advertised average assess time = 24 millisec., and having 
worked  on  a VAX w/ SI controller + Fujitsu Eagle,  I BELIEVE IT  !!!   The 
darned thing is fast, it doesn't make misteaks, and it's reasonably priced !

SCO XENIX:  Everything you've heard about their compiler is wrong:
                           IT'S WORSE !!!
Example;  mod.sources has a "TRC" expert-system builder.   It compiles  just 
fine on a Tandy 6000 (Xenix 3.0,  mc68000 CPU) and on a VAX (BSD 4.1) and on 
an Altos 3068 (SYS V,  mc 68020).   Try it on SCO w/ default cc options, you 
get thru the first few passes OK,  then the loader sez "group DGROUP > 64K".  
So like a dumbbell you give cc the -M2em (or -LARGE) options.  As soon as it 
gets  past the pre-processor,  it starts complaining about undefined symbols 
(namely, every one you've used !) and crumps.  Hmmm...  Rumor Control has it 
that  SCO will release a compiler by 7/30 that actually works.   We'll  see.  
SCO's disk buffering scheme seems to work very well, speeds up disk I/O very 
nicely.   Either because they don't know how their products work (when  they 
do,  that  is) or because they haven't figured ou