[net.unix] UNIX System V for PC/AT ???

west@gargoyle.UUCP (07/11/86)

I am interested in getting Xenix or Unix for my PC/AT.
I already know about Xenix availability, but does anyone
in net land know whether Unix System V is also
available for the AT?  And if so, where?

Also, if anyone has any experience to report with System V
on an AT, that would be appreciated.  In particular, does
it get the kind of high-level support that SCO reportedly
gives Xenix?

Thanks.



Steve Westfall		      uucp:    ihnp4!gargoyle!west
Univ. of Chicago
Graduate School of Business

alan@mn-at1.UUCP (07/13/86)

In article <517@gargoyle.UUCP>, west@gargoyle.UUCP (Steve Westfall) writes:
> 
> Does anyone in net land know whether Unix System V is
> available for the AT?  And if so, where?

Take a look at Microport's UNIX System V.  For a measely 400 bucks you
get the *full* V.2 implementation: cc, troff, f77, lint, vi, yacc, lex, 
terminfo, make, mailx, and even crash.  It also has file locking, ipc,
semops, shared mem, and 80287 support.  The kernel comes optionally with
relocatable .o files so you can link in your own stuff.

It supports the large memory model, and so far it has worked with every
single source that has come off the net, even netnews 2.10.3 :-).

Benchmarks:  Sieve 2.7 secs,   Dhrystones: 1800   (8Mhz PC AT)

Some caveats:
     o The price is going up.  How much?  I dunno.

     o I had to wait 6 weeks to get my shipment.  Although they seem to
       be catching up the backlog now.

     o You need a large disk, especially if you expect to hold things like
       man pages or netnews.  I recommend getting a 60 megabyte Priam (Vertex
       V170), circa $1300.

     o You need lots of memory.  I recommend at least 2 megabytes.

Total price is $400 for a 3 user license.  An 8 user license is $40 extra.


Where to write:

    Microport Inc.
    10096 Soquel Drive
    Aptos, Calif.  95003   or call:  1-800-iAPX286
				    (1-800-4279286)

Note: I have no connection with Microport other than as a satisfied customer.

--
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alan@mn-at1.UUCP (07/13/86)

Correction!   The phone number to Microport is:

    1-800-PC2-UNIX     (1-800-722-8649).

California residents should dial

    1-408-688-0268

Sorry about that!
--
Alan Klietz
Minnesota Supercomputer Center (*)
2520 Broadway Drive
Lauderdale, MN  55113     UUCP:  ..caip!meccts!dicome!mn-at1!alan.UUCP
Ph: +1 612 638 0577	  ARPA:  aek@umn-rei-uc.ARPA
 
(*) An affiliate of the University of Minnesota

ron@vsedev.UUCP (07/14/86)

In article <517@gargoyle.UUCP> west@gargoyle.UUCP (Steve Westfall) writes:
>
>I am interested in getting Xenix or Unix for my PC/AT.
>I already know about Xenix availability, but does anyone
>in net land know whether Unix System V is also
>available for the AT?  And if so, where?
>

Check with the folks at MICROPORT Systems, 10096 Soquel Drive, Aptos,
California 95003, (408) 688-0286.  They have a product called 
System V/AT and the complete package including full development system,
text processing system, 'C', 'f77', uucp, cu, etc... is less than
$500.00, yes you read correct!!! less than $500.00.  The compiler (C) is
supposed to be excellent from what I hear and they even include 'csh'
and 'more' and 'vi'....

I suggest giving them a call, I have used SCO and I have just placed an
order for this exciting new product.  I've had it with the poor support
from SCO for their Xenix/Unix product line (UUCP huh gee what's
that???).

They also give you over 2000 pages of documentation, although I havn't
seen the packaging as yet.

>Also, if anyone has any experience to report with System V
>on an AT, that would be appreciated.  In particular, does
>it get the kind of high-level support that SCO reportedly
>gives Xenix?
>
What support?  Ever call them with a real UNIX question?  They stammer
off and claim they will get back to you within a week or two with an
answer, and don't hold your breath.

--
ron@vsedev.UUCP	       (Ron Flax)
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guy@sun.UUCP (07/14/86)

> Take a look at Microport's UNIX System V.  For a measely 400 bucks you
> get the *full* V.2 implementation: cc, troff ...

V.2 doesn't come with "troff".  They're either supplying the V.1 version, or
bundling DWB in with their V.2.  If the latter, you should be getting
"ditroff" and "pic" as well.
-- 
	Guy Harris
	{ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy
	guy@sun.com (or guy@sun.arpa)

guy@sun.UUCP (07/15/86)

> Check with the folks at MICROPORT Systems, 10096 Soquel Drive, Aptos,
> California 95003, (408) 688-0286.  They have a product called 
> System V/AT and the complete package including full development system,
> text processing system,

Which, from what people have said, is DWB, which means you get [DT]ITROFF
and PIC.

> and they even include ... 'vi'....

One would certainly hope so, since it's supplied with the standard S5
distribution.
-- 
	Guy Harris
	{ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy
	guy@sun.com (or guy@sun.arpa)

ron@vsedev.UUCP (07/15/86)

In article <5068@sun.uucp> guy@sun.uucp (Guy Harris) writes:
>> Take a look at Microport's UNIX System V.  For a measely 400 bucks you
>> get the *full* V.2 implementation: cc, troff ...
>
>V.2 doesn't come with "troff".  They're either supplying the V.1 version, or
>bundling DWB in with their V.2.  If the latter, you should be getting
>"ditroff" and "pic" as well.

Yes, you're right Guy, and they are...  this excerpt comes directly out
of one of their technical notes pages of their information packet...

The Text  Processing  Package  consists  of  the
complete System   V    Release   2   Documenters
Workbench (DWB).   The package  is provided with
both the  new  troff  (Device independent troff)
and the old troff (otroff).  Drivers  for the HP
Laser Jet Printer and Apple  LaserWriter will be
available in the second quarter of 1986.

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toddo@uhmanoa.UUCP (07/16/86)

In article <5097@sun.uucp> guy@sun.uucp (Guy Harris) writes:
>> Check with the folks at MICROPORT Systems, 10096 Soquel Drive, Aptos,
>> California 95003, (408) 688-0286.  They have a product called 

	The latest Microport ad gives the following address & phone number:

		Microport Systems, Inc.
		4200 Scotts Valley Drive
		Scotts Valley, CA 95066
			(408) 438-UNIX (in CA)
			(800) PC2-UNIX (outside CA)

>> System V/AT and the complete package including full development system,
>> text processing system,

	$169  Runtime system
	$169  Software development system
	$169  Text preparation system

	$439  **Complete system consisting of three modules above

	 $99  3 to 8 user upgrade
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west@gargoyle.UUCP (07/18/86)

In article <5068@sun.uucp> guy@sun.uucp (Guy Harris) writes:
>> Take a look at Microport's UNIX System V.  For a measely 400 bucks you
>> get the *full* V.2 implementation: cc, troff ...
>
>V.2 doesn't come with "troff".  They're either supplying the V.1 version, or
>bundling DWB in with their V.2.  If the latter, you should be getting
>"ditroff" and "pic" as well.
>-- 
>	Guy Harris
>	{ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy
>	guy@sun.com (or guy@sun.arpa)

In fact, it comes bundled with complete DWB, including both the
new ditroff and the old troff.  [This according to Bell Technologies,
who is distributing this software with their hard disks.]


Steve Westfall		      uucp:    ihnp4!gargoyle!west
Univ. of Chicago
Graduate School of Business