preece@ccvaxa.UUCP (09/17/86)
> In article <15372@mordor.ARPA> jdb@mordor.UUCP (John Bruner) writes: > > I am far more productive with "vi" on UNIX than with any of > >the mouse-based editors I've run across on the Mac. /* Written 5:40 pm Sep 15, 1986 by wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu.Caltech.Edu in net.unix */ > Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha > Considering my experiences with vi (holding the up/down/left/right keys > causes some versions to delete random snatches of text) this is the > most hilarious thing i've ever heard. When I'm programming the thing I > do most often is move around in the file. You cant tell me that > pointing and clicking with the mouse isn't faster then banging away on > random cursor keys. ---------- I can't speak to vi (I REFUSE to speak to vi...), but I find that emacs on Unix is a much more productive environment than the mac for me. I haven't used a mouse extensively in any other environment; perhaps with a much larger screen and a much faster processor it could compete. A mouse is very handy for some things, but when I move around in files during programming, it is almost always (1) among a small number of specific points (where I can leave markers and hop around with two keystrokes) or (2) to places I can identify by content, to which search will get me much faster than moving to the scroll bar, sliding around to the right piece of the file and rolling to the right place on the screen. I WOULD like a mouse interface in addition -- moving around the "current screen" with cursor keys is a pain (though many movements are one or two lines and faster by key), but I would hate to have the mouse as my only movement option. -- scott preece gould/csd - urbana uucp: ihnp4!uiucdcs!ccvaxa!preece arpa: preece@gswd-vms
carroll@snail.CS.UIUC.EDU (09/27/86)
Not quite. Touch typists (such as my self) will gain a lot from Dvorak keysets too. I think it would be great to have Dvorak the standard instead of this ridiculous QWERTY thing.
henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) (10/04/86)
> ... Touch typists (such as my self) will gain a lot from Dvorak > keysets too... Really? No impartial investigator has ever found more than about a 10-15% speedup for the Dvorak keyboard. -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry