[net.suicide] Anyone out there?

hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (Jerry Hollombe) (12/30/84)

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I'm here and read this group whenever there's anything  in  it.  I've  been
out  of this line of work for a few years now, so I don't have anything new
to start a discussion with.  I'll be happy to comment if someone else  will
start a conversation going.  I'd like to keep up with the state of the art.


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mjc@cmu-cs-cad.ARPA (Monica Cellio) (01/01/85)

Yeah, I'd also like to 'keep up with the state of the art' (as someone else
put it) but am not real good at starting things.

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presley@mhuxj.UUCP (Joe Presley) (01/02/85)

> start a conversation going.  I'd like to keep up with the state of the art.

Here's some good noose for you:  hang around this newgroups and you'll
learn the ropes very quickly; how to and how knot to, so to speak :-). 

We're on the cutting edge of the technology here!

(Anyone looking for a kaishaku?)
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Joe Presley (ihnp4!j.presley)

fetrow@entropy.UUCP (David Fetrow) (01/03/85)

[..it brings on many changes..]
 O.K. discussion starts now: The last FOUR messages in this group all said
(paraphrasing): I'm interested in the state-of-the-art but can't start
anything.
 Posit: A defense mechanism against suicide is the enui accompaning suicidal
tendencies, a lack of iniative.

 Dave Fetrow
 KloogeMaster of Center for Quantitative Sciences in Fisheries, Forestry and
                                Wildlife Management
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jgpo@ihu1e.UUCP (John, KA9MNK) (01/04/85)

> Posit: A defense mechanism against suicide is the enui accompaning suicidal
> tendencies, a lack of iniative.


This seems to be true.  A few years ago, a good friend of mine was
going through a very painful divorce (following an even more painful
marriage).  Her ennui and lack of initiative were so great she almost
couldn't function at all.  After the divorce was granted and she had been
in therapy for several months, she started having strong suicidal urges.
This frightened her and she mentioned it to her therapist.  The therapist
told her that this was a good sign: the fact that she had the energy to
contemplate suicide showed that she was coming out of her depression.

I recall reading (no references, sorry) that people in severe depressive
states rarely commit suicide because they can't foster the energy to
even think of this way out.  The most dangerous time for depressives is
when they begin to recover.  They're still miserable, but they can see
an out and a lot of them take it.

Severly depressed people bear watching, especially in the initial stages
of recovery.  A sympathetic therapist (and steadfast friends and family)
can make all the difference in the world.



	John Opalko
	AT&T Bell Labs
	Naperville, IL



PS:

My friend is still alive, no longer depressed, now degreed, and is happily
busy mothering her six-year-old son and working as a Registered Nurse.
Thanks for asking.	:-)