bart@alice.UucP (Bart N. Locanthi) (03/10/86)
in article <181@lll-lcc.UUcp> bandy@lll-lcc.UUCP (Andrew Scott Beals) writes: >Well, I don't know what their position on "I don't like the world, >so I'll just hang out on this tree here until I die." is, but if >there happens to be a Jihad (~holy war) going on (and there always >seems to be, doesn't it?), then if you die while fighting the war >(ie driving a truck loaded with explosives into the airport >terminal), then you're guaranteed a good time in heaven or something >along those lines... It suffices to say that they think that in >terms of ways to die, it's the bee's knees... interesting thought. do you suppose moslem countries have suicide hotlines too then? not for preventing suicide, but for taking volunteers! seems to me that if there is some stigma attached to wanting to end it all you could at least pick up a few brownie points by taking some infidels with you. but this still doesn't answer my original question!
andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) (03/12/86)
In reply to a rather bigoted query about the Moslem position on suicide, >in article <181@lll-lcc.UUcp> bandy@lll-lcc.UUCP (Andrew Scott Beals) writes: >>...if there happens to be a Jihad (~holy war) going on (and there always >>seems to be, doesn't it?), then if you die while fighting the war >>(ie driving a truck loaded with explosives into the airport >>terminal), then you're guaranteed a good time in heaven... then, In article <5108@alice.uUCp> bart@alice.UucP (Bart N. Locanthi) writes: >interesting thought. do you suppose moslem countries have suicide hotlines >too then? not for preventing suicide, but for taking volunteers! ... Jesus Christ! (if you'll pardon the expression) I can't believe the amount of anti-Moslem sentiment in the States. Don't you people realize that the Moslems you hate so much, like the Shi`ite terrorists, are religious and political extremists? Their views, practices, and laws can no more be taken as indicative of Islam than Jerry Falwell and the Inquisitors can be of Christianity. If you are *really* interested in knowing the mainstream Moslem position on suicide, instead of just cracking bigoted jokes, post to net.religion. --Jamie (not Moslem but some of my best friends are...). ...!ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews "Like a dog without a bone, an actor out on loan"
bart@alice.UucP (Bart N. Locanthi) (03/14/86)
>>>...if there happens to be a Jihad (~holy war) going on (and there always >>>seems to be, doesn't it?), then if you die while fighting the war >>>(ie driving a truck loaded with explosives into the airport >>>terminal), then you're guaranteed a good time in heaven... >>interesting thought. do you suppose moslem countries have suicide hotlines >>too then? not for preventing suicide, but for taking volunteers! ... >Jesus Christ! (if you'll pardon the expression) holy shi`ite! >I can't believe the amount of anti-Moslem sentiment in the States. Don't you >people realize that the Moslems you hate so much, like the Shi`ite terrorists, >are religious and political extremists? Their views, practices, and laws can >no more be taken as indicative of Islam than Jerry Falwell and the Inquisitors >can be of Christianity. now who's bigoted? i think shi`ite islam fundamentalists in iran would take exception to your characterization of them as terrorists. nevertheless, you can't very well dispute the fact that their religion condones the enlistment of children to become cannon/mustard gas fodder in the iran/iraq holy war. (what's that war about, anyway? "you know, abdul, that land-grab your ancestors pulled 2500 years ago really burns me up.."?) who knows, if the moslem position on suicide really is similar to the christian one, sending suicide prevention volunteers to the mideast might be even a better idea than exporting lawyers to japan. >If you are *really* interested in knowing the >mainstream Moslem position on suicide, instead of just cracking bigoted jokes, >post to net.religion. >--Jamie (not Moslem but some of my best friends are...). sounds like you're in a perfect position to answer my original question. please ask your moslem friends for me. -bart (not christian, jewish, or shinto but some of my best friends are...)