[net.info-terms] Use of ring indicator for autoanswer

3435ras@houxb.UUCP (10/10/83)

Help!  Does anybody know of any terminals or host
computers that use the "ring indicator" lead of
EIA RS-232C for autoanswer?

Bob Schreibmaier
AT&T Information Systems
Lincroft, N.J.

edwards@uiucuxc.UUCP (10/12/83)

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uiucuxc!edwards    Oct 11 08:32:00 1983

	No terminals or computers, but my multi-tech modem uses it for
  auto-answer.

			Alan Edwards
			Army Corps of Engineers
			Construction Engineering Research Lab (CERL)

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david@varian.UUCP (10/12/83)

Speaking of the RING indicator, prowling through the manual for the
Able DH/DM multiplexor, I found an obscurely-documented but very useful
use of it:

Section 7.4 (pg. 7-5):
In applications where modem control is not required, the RING line can be
used as a device handshake signal which stops transmission to that device
in a manner that is completely transparent to the software ... A jumper
placement connects the RING line to the clear-to-send input of the UART
... the UART clear-to-send input is removed when the RING signal is placed
at the inactive level. The loss of CTS inhibits the UART from raising
its transmitter-ready flag and thus the next character is not loaded into
the transmit holding register until the CTS signal has been restored by
reactivation of the RING signal.

I was able to use this feature to connect a serial printer that uses
DTR control to UNIX without any software modifications (it seems to me
that mdmbuf in the 4.1BSD tty driver doesn't work; am I right?).  I
connected the jumper (I had to phone Able to find out where they are
- if you look at the Figure 3-1 on pg 3-3, there are 16 pairs of circles
marked "RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE"; each pair corresponds to one of the
16 lines; jumpering pins 28 and 29 together will affect line 0, ...
60 and 61 affect line 15).  I then made a special cable for the computer
end which connected RING (pin 22) to the DTR output of the printer
(which was now CARRIER (pin 8), having gone through a null modem, as
both the printer and the multiplexor are DTE equipment).  I created
a new version of the printer queuing software with all the names changed
(lpr-->lp2, lpd-->lpd2), linked /dev/ttyxx to /dev/lp2, and that was
it.

If anyone has questions about what I did, feel free to call or send me 
mail. I don't know if all Able multiplexors have this feature; we
received ours in February 82, and the manual is dated July 81.  We
also have an older Able DMAX/16, which is a 3 board set (the DH/DM
is a single board), and I haven't found anything in the manual about
such a feature.

	David Brown
	Varian Instruments 2700 Mitchell Dr.  Walnut Creek, Ca. 94598
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taylor@ecsvax.UUCP (10/13/83)

The Develcon Dataswitch also uses ring indicator when used as a DTE.  This,
by the way, is a very useful signal for helping equipment with bidirectional
(originating or answering) ports to determine whether a call is being
originated or answered.

Steve Taylor
N C Educational Computing Service
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thomas@utah-gr.UUCP (Spencer W. Thomas) (10/13/83)

Regarding the use of RI on Able DH/DMs for flow control.  We have
been doing this for over a year now with our LocalNet units.  This
allows us to have totally out-of-band flow control, which is great if
the unit on one end is talking 4800 baud to a modem, while the unit on
the other end is talking 9600 baud to the computer (as mine is at this
very moment).  The only problems we encountered were with our DEC-20,
which thinks it knows how long it should take for a string to be
transmitted.  If it is flow controlled for too long by this method
(which is totally invisible to the host), it gets upset.

=Spencer