[net.info-terms] What is the *best* terminal to use with UNIX?

dob@ihuxj.UUCP (01/19/84)

I have been given the luxury of acquiring a new terminal and
modem  to  use on UNIX. So my question to the experts on the
net  is  this:	What is the best terminal (and modem) to use
for accessing UNIX and it's visually oriented tools.

My  only  experience  to  date	with ascii terminals on UNIX
include  the  ADM-3a  and  5  and  the IBM-PC running KERMIT
(which	is, among other things, a VT52 emulator). Also, I am
a  recent  convert  from  using  the IBM 3278 (43 lines X 79
characters)  terminal connected  to a 370 system running the
TSS/370 operating system.

Even  with  this  limited experience,  I have developed some
strong	likes and dislikes, and so I will temper my question
as to the *best* terminal/modem by listing them.

(I  know  that	this  will  generate  a lot of discussion as
terminal likes/dislikes are, more often than not, a personal
choice.  So  please  mail  responses  to me and I promise to
summarize  and	post to  the  net  (that  is,	if I get any
responses.)

And now my list:

   * A	nice  keyboard with good tactile feel and *standard*
     layout.  I like the 3270-style keyboard and so like the
     IBM-PC.  The  ADM	5 is a piece of junk with keystrokes
     doubling,	quadrupling  (and  more!).  It's  layout  is
     terrible  with caplock in place of the control key. The
     ADM  3A,  on  the otherhand, was a fairly solid (albeit
     dumb) terminal.

   * Good character definition. (11 by 14 dot matrix?)

   * Programmable  function/soft keys. These must be able to
     transmit  arbitrary ascii text to the host. Programming
     the  keys	from UNIX would be a nice feature. Using the
     IBM-PC  with  a  keyboard	extender  like	PROKEY is an
     exceptional combination.

   * A	*standard*  terminal  that  *all* tools can utilize.
     Gosling's  EMACS  won't run on the 3A, and our system's
     termcap doesn't include the ADM 5. The VT52 is standard
     but somewhat dumb.

   * Sufficiently      intelligent     so     that     fewer
     characters/commands  are required from the host to "get
     the job done."

   * Detachable keyboard. ('nuf said!)

   * A printer (or facility for optional printer).

   * Display memory (virtual terminal sheet).

   * As far as modems, I like the HAYES SMARTMODEM 1200, but
     this is probably overkill if used with just a terminal.
     What others offer highspeed/low cost/nice features?

Thanks	for reading this long sermon on what I would like to
have  as  features on a terminal, but since you stuck it out
thus far, why not reply with your suggestions. Thanks again.
-- 
		
			Daniel M. O'Brien
			AT&T Bell Laboratories
			IH 1C-202
			Naperville, IL 60566
		
			....!ihuxj!dob
		

agk@ihuxq.UUCP (01/19/84)

The answer is simple:  Get a Teletype DMD 5620, successor to the famous blit.
It truly works *with* the UN*X OS, while most terminals are merely on speaking
terms.  If only they didn't have that <negative adjective> green screen.
A couple minutes with a DMD will make you hate to go back to those Stone Age
relics put out by most terminal manufacturers.

	-andy kegel, AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL, ...!ihnp4!ihuxq!agk

mark@umcp-cs.UUCP (01/20/84)

The AT&T bell labs person who recommends the Blit successor, the DMD
5620, possibly doesn't know that at last word Teletype and AT&T
are (a) refusing to provide support for this terminal for any Unix
except system V on Vaxes, and (b) refusing to sell source code to the necessary
support code so there is every NO possibility of use under any other
Unix.  This terminal NEEDS this on-host support code to really use
its nice windowing features, so this "marketing?" decision cuts
out a great many users.  I wouldn't buy it.
-- 
Mark Weiser 		
UUCP:	{seismo,allegra,brl-bmd}!umcp-cs!mark
CSNet:	mark@umcp-cs 	ARPA:	mark@maryland