[net.music] Synth band discussion

jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) (05/22/85)

> However, with the exception of Kraftwerk, the above mentioned
> bands were more analog artists than synthetic artists.

Now, this is a dismal way of judging music, that it should be digitally
produced!  There is currently this fascination with getting away from
analog music-production; look in net.music, where everyone has this
fascination with music recorded on digital media; music that has a vague
discomforting feel, as if it was covered with small fine hairs.

Then, I will patently attack your evaluation criterion, as being based on a
desire to be "trendy," rather than on any merit of the music itself.  And I
will do it this way:  I will assert that the almost purely analog Tales
from Topographic Oceans, by Yes, is the major contribution to music made by
our present era; because unlike the groups you have cited, at least those
with which I am familiar, it strives to employ synthesized music in new
ways (as vs. those that are simply imitative of traditional musical forms),
while maintaining sufficient contact with the traditional forms that the
music remains melodic, and not simply noise*.  This is accomplished by the
use of a continuum ranging from the purely accoustic guitar of "Along
Without You," to the purely synthesized (except for drums) sounds of the
fight scene in "Ritual" (which itself resolves in an amazing way back
to the purely accoustic piano in the transition to "Nous Sommes du Soleil").

This is where the majority of modern-day electronic music fails.  While
it is interesting, it is emotionally dead material, striving to be purely
synthetic, but thereby inhuman.
						-- jer
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* The philosophy underlying this is explained in the bizarre song "Sound
  Chaser," by the way.
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mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora) (05/25/85)

Really, I think "Close to the Edge" is Yes' best.

Also, don't forget Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays when discussing innovative use
of synthesizers.

							Mike Sykora

jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) (06/04/85)

Huzzah for the undefeated triumph of analog over digital music!  A coward
dies a thousand deaths; a hero dies but one.
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tre@sdcarl.UUCP (Tom Erbe) (06/06/85)

In article <1014@peora.UUCP> jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) writes:
>Huzzah for the undefeated triumph of analog over digital music!  A coward
>dies a thousand deaths; a hero dies but one.
>-- 
I am puzzled by this posting.  First, what is an "undefeated triumph"?  Second,
what is "analog music"?  Is it music that contains analogies?  Finally, what is
"digital music"?  Is it music about digits or music made only with ones fingers?
Please clarify.


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jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) (06/11/85)

You're right on all counts!  Congratulations!

I can't help it, I just get annoyed when people make categorical statements
like "the 70's art rock musicians are outdated because they didn't use
digital synthesizers," which is what the original poster seemed to be
saying (although he also attempted to associate the outdatedness with the
age of the listener).  But after posting a reasonably coherent counterexample
to his claim, and having no one challenge it, I wrote the posting which you
referenced.  Obviously an "undefeated triumph" is a strange phrase... but
then, so is the word "huzzah".
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