bradley@godot.UUCP (Bradley C. Kuszmaul) (06/11/84)
Not nice to call someone an idiot, especially when you show your own ... er ... failure to keep up with the field. The selection sort that you described is really no better than the bubble sort under most conditions: bubble sort: best time: n steps worst time: n^2 steps selection sort: best time = worst time = 0.5*(n^2) steps The selection sort is only better by a factor of two under the conditions most favorable to it, and is sometimes worse by a factor of 0.5*n. The conditions under which bubble sort will win are when a file is "partly sorted" already (i.e. the farthest a given element will have to travel is small) For good sorting algorithms, try quicksort (n^2 at worst n*log n at best, with the "best" conditions much less restrictive than for bubble sort), or something else. (Quicksort and other sorting algorithms are discussed in "Software Tools" by Kernighan and Plaugher (Excuse the spelling and possibly incorrect name of the book) and "The Art of Computer Programming, vol II Sorting and Searching" by Knuth. --Bradley C. Kuszmaul {decvax!cca,ihnp4!mit-eddie,allegra!ias}!godot!bradley, "godot!bradley@mit-eddie"@MIT-XX.ARPA -- {decvax!cca,ihnp4!mit-eddie,allegra!ias}!godot!bradley, "godot!bradley@mit-eddie"@MIT-XX.ARPA
nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (06/11/84)
Yes. And if you're too lazy to do a quick sort or merge sort or some n*log(n) sort (though it shouldn't be very difficult) you could at LEAST do a straight insertion sort which is just as easy as a bubble sort or selection sort and always as fast or faster. -- -Doug Alan mit-eddie!nessus Nessus@MIT-MC "What does 'I' mean"?
dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) (06/12/84)
[what is this discussion doing in net.sources?] If you really want to understand n*log(n) sorting techniques, get hold of the computer-generated film "Sorting Out Sorting" (Univ. of Toronto, 1981). It's available from the U of Toronto Media Centre, and many university CS departments have purchased copies. It uses animation to make quicksort, heapsort and others easy to understand, and demonstrates (via "races" on many items) how much better n*log(n) is than n-squared. Dave Sherman -- {allegra,cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo}!utcsrgv!dave
wm@tekchips.UUCP (Wm Leler) (06/22/84)
I heartily second the recommendation for "Sorting out Sorting". An excellent film. An excerpt from it was on one of the Siggraph tapes as well. Wm Leler tektronix!tekchips!wm