[net.sources] prime help

LCG.GREEN@dec-marlboro.ARPA (01/09/86)

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....bob green lcg.green@dec-marlboro

I am looking for information on a UNIX or UNIX-like operating system to run
on a PRIME 2550 at Sharon High School. Does anyone know of such a system.  If
so please let me know how I can get a copy.  I have tried PRIME's "PRIMIX"
and found it wanting:  too slow, too new, too buggy

					Thsnx,
					Dave Hawkins
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walt@rclex.UUCP (Walter L. Weber) (01/09/86)

> I am looking for information on a UNIX or UNIX-like operating system to run
> on a PRIME 2550 at Sharon High School. Does anyone know of such a system.  If
> so please let me know how I can get a copy.  I have tried PRIME's "PRIMIX"
> and found it wanting:  too slow, too new, too buggy

Reaching back into my "packrat" file from when I was at PR1ME , HCR/Toronto
was doing the majority of the work, and were having problems getting
PRIMIX to ride smoothly on top of PRIMOS.

An earlier, limited attempt at an emulation was the "Software Tools
Subsystem" done at Georgia Institue of Technology.  The document I have
on this is from the School of Information and Computer Science, is dated
April 1982, and carries the number "GIT-ICS-82/05" on the title page.  It
is approx. 100 single-sided pages long.

Good luck - PRIMOS is their chosen route.

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dts@gitpyr.UUCP (Danny Sharpe) (01/15/86)

In article <643@rclex.UUCP> walt@rclex.UUCP (Walter L. Weber) writes:
>> I am looking for information on a UNIX or UNIX-like operating system to run
>> on a PRIME 2550 at Sharon High School. Does anyone know of such a system.  If
>> so please let me know how I can get a copy.  I have tried PRIME's "PRIMIX"
>> and found it wanting:  too slow, too new, too buggy
>
>An earlier, limited attempt at an emulation was the "Software Tools
>Subsystem" done at Georgia Institue of Technology.  The document I have
>on this is from the School of Information and Computer Science, is dated
>April 1982, and carries the number "GIT-ICS-82/05" on the title page.  It
>is approx. 100 single-sided pages long.
>
>Good luck - PRIMOS is their chosen route.

Good old Software Tools.  Tech isn't supporting it anymore, something to do
with our primes getting too expensive too maintain, I believe.  It's a shame,
too, because I quite liked it.  It was a shock to have to move to unix, and I
didn't move willingly.  There was enough overlap between swt and unix that I
wasn't totally lost and could make intelligent guesses about how to do things.
But unix is a pain in the ass to try to learn on your own, even if you're
already familiar with a derivative system, whereas I learned swt almost
exclusively from the on-line documentation.

By the way, swt was slow, too, in large part because it ran on top of primos.
Its pipes weren't real pipes, either; they were just hidden temporary files.
But the written documentation was infinitely better (more accurate and less
hostile towards the beginning user) and the user interface a bit more consist-
ent.  It didn't have all the bells and whistles unix has, but then there were
also a few functional enhancements here and there.

<Sigh.>  Forgive me.  Just reminiscing.


                                                 -Danny




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crs@lanl.ARPA (01/17/86)

> But unix is a pain in the ass to try to learn on your own, even if you're
> already familiar with a derivative system, whereas I learned swt almost
> exclusively from the on-line documentation.

When people speak of Unix being so hard to learn, are they speaking from
a user's viewpoint or a system programmer's?  I ask because, speaking from
a user's viewpoint, I found Unix relatively easy to learn.  What am I
missing?
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