gdt (02/07/83)
Can anyone believe they have Ali McGraw playing Natalie? What a miscast. Natalie is suppose to be in her early 20s. What are they going to do if "Winds of War" is a hit and they decide to do "War and Rememberence"? Ali will be nearing 50 while Natalie 30. Hell, they should have gotten Jane Fonda for the role. Thurman
bch (02/08/83)
Jan-Michael Vincent isn't exactly a spring chicken...so far I think it's one of the best things she's done (other than "Goodbye Columbus.")
honey (02/08/83)
ali mcgraw is \terrible/ (at least she was for the first two hours, my limit of endurance). she couldn't act her way out of a paper bag. peter honeyman
tcb (02/09/83)
Why is it that humans so eagerly seize upon opportunities to criticize and condemn? I mean what's important here - Ali McGraw's performance and/or suitability to the role, or the story itself? I agree to some extent with a few of the comments, but I'm trying to look past those points to what the author is trying to tell me. If you really can't stomach what your seeing, what's keeping you from tuning in Sesame Street or the Muppet Show? That is, after all, why televisions come with a channel selector knob... Tom
sdo (02/11/83)
Why am I not playing Ali McGraw's part if I think she's so bad? Because all my dresses are at the cleaners and my legs itch for weeks after I shave them. Scott Orshan
mcewan (02/12/83)
#R:allegra:-86300:uiucdcs:19200001:000:713 uiucdcs!mcewan Feb 11 21:29:00 1983 ***** uiucdcs:net.tv / alice!alb / 7:39 am Feb 11, 1983 For all of you deriding Ali McGraw: If she's so bad then why aren't YOU playing the part? ---------- This is brilliant. Of course I shouldn't complain that a supposed professional can't do her/his job if I couldn't do it. If I can't fix a car, I shouldn't blame my mechanic if my car blows up. If I can't cook, I shouldn't complain about being served raw meat in a restaurant. If I can't program, I can't gripe that the software package you sold me thinks 2+2=3.1415e43. It's my own fault that I haven't expended the effort to learn every skill I could ever possibly need. Insted, like a fool, I expect other people to be competent at what they do.
espo (02/12/83)
I think the show is one of the best things TV has ever done!
For a production that costs over $4M and took about 3 years
to make, it sure beats some of the junk I've seen on the
silver screen, and on cable for that matter!
.....Bob Esposito (broke after sending $$$$ on blank video tapes)crose (02/12/83)
Wasn't it 2* million and 5 years?
alb (02/12/83)
You are acting as if you have no alternatives in the matter, that you are being forced to watch Ali MacGraw. Well, no one is telling you to watch her. No one says you can't turn your TV off when she comes on. If you don't like a mechanic, don't go to him/her; if a cook serves you raw meat, go to another restaurant; if a software package can't do basic math, get another one that can. No one is forcing you to buy bad products. You most definitely have the right to think whatever you like about whatever you like. However, why not put some basic consideration for others and just a touch of human decency into it. That shouldn't be so hard.
G:fantods (02/14/83)
I don't get it. Why do YOU like Ali McGraw so much? Isn't this newsgroup FOR pissing and moaning about television? If all we ever did was change the channel after being angered by some inane or inept portrayal or direction job or whatever, we'd never see anything good, and we'd all have cancer from suppressing emotions all the time!!!!!! So there!!!!! YOU don't have to read the damn Ali McGraw reviews, you DO have a "n" key, ya know?! NYA NYA NYA!!!!!!!!! (Please note: I did not watch the winds of war. I think that spending $40M on recreating WWII is just about as dumb as spending $40M on the first Superman film. So I have no idea what Ali's performance is like. Is the book any good?) Richard Moorman
bernie (02/16/83)
Just for the record, "Winds of War" cost $40M, not $4M as Bob Esposito's message stated.
mclure (03/09/83)
#R:bpa:-11500:sri-unix:14400002:000:317 sri-unix!mclure Feb 12 15:37:00 1983 Wasn't it $40 million? I gave up on Winds the second night. Very slow and ponderous. I preferred Shogun but detested its ending because it seemed until then as if Anjinsan was going to become the Shogun himself, didn't it? That's what I was expecting the whole time. Probably a bit Anglo-arrogant of me. Stuart
mcewan (03/18/83)
#R:bpa:-11500:uiucdcs:19200006:000:202 uiucdcs!mcewan Mar 17 14:12:00 1983 "I preferred Shogun but detested its ending because it seemed until then as if Anjinsan was going to become the Shogun himself, didn't it? ???? I don't think you watched the same Shogun that I did.