brennan@iuvax.UUCP (05/15/84)
[click click click] I simply have to put in my 5 cents worth. .soaps should be only for daytime soaps. I hope that you will all agree that there is quite a difference between Dallas and Dynasty, and All my Brats and General Hospital. (can you parse that correctly?) If for no other reason than daytime soaps are everyday and those of us that aren't interested have to put up with them more often! But, let's not argue about it. Can we take an electronic vote? I'm sure there are other people out there that, like myself, would prefer to make a distinction between the two. JD Brennan ...!ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!brennan (USENET) Brennan@Indiana (CSNET) Brennan.Indiana@CSnet-Relay (ARPA)
rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (05/15/84)
> I simply have to put in my 5 cents worth. .soaps should > be only for daytime soaps. I hope that you will all > agree that there is quite a difference between Dallas and > Dynasty, and All my Brats and General Hospital. Of course. Daytime soaps are frivolous, "top-40" entertainment, while nighttime "continuing episode dramas" are serious literature on a par with the best of the great authors like Sidney Sheldon and Harold Robbins. (FOR THOSE WHO LEFT THEIR SARCASM DETECTOR HOME: :-) [HAVE I GOT A NEWSGROUP FOR YOU...] Hey, I watch Hill Street, but I only watch Dynasty to get a peek at Joan Collins. My favorite evening soap is, of course, Dukes of Hazzard ("Can't you see I'm dun fer?" "Dun fer? Why that's a word that Dukes don't know the meaning of!" [AMONG MANY OTHERS] ). Of course Dukes is a soap; it's part of CBS's Friday evening of soaps. Frankly, I think having a newsgroup for the purpose of posting summaries (perhaps weekly) of the events on various shows is a very good idea. General discussion of TV-related subjects could continue in net.tv . -- Pardon me for ... oh, never mind!! Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlr
gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) (05/16/84)
>> I simply have to put in my 5 cents worth. .soaps should >> be only for daytime soaps. I hope that you will all >> agree that there is quite a difference between Dallas and >> Dynasty, and All my Brats and General Hospital. Well, I guess so, but that's no reason to confine .soaps to daytime only. > Of course. Daytime soaps are frivolous, "top-40" entertainment, > while nighttime "continuing episode dramas" are serious literature > on a par with the best of the great authors like Sidney Sheldon > and Harold Robbins. (FOR THOSE WHO LEFT THEIR SARCASM DETECTOR HOME: :-) > [HAVE I GOT A NEWSGROUP FOR YOU...] Well, I wouldn't call Dallas/Dynasty serious literature, although it is somewhat more realistic than GH has been of late (since the Casadines and the Freezing of Port Charles). However, no soap is as serious as Hill Street or St. Elsewhere. Would you have called Family a soap? (I know it didn't have continued episodes.) Even if it did, I wouldn't have called it one. HSB/St. Elsewhere are continuing episode dramas. They are not nighttime soaps. They are meant to be taken seriously. > Hey, I watch Hill Street, but I only watch Dynasty to get a peek at > Joan Collins. My favorite evening soap is, of course, Dukes of > Hazzard ("Can't you see I'm dun fer?" "Dun fer? Why that's a word that > Dukes don't know the meaning of!" [AMONG MANY OTHERS] ). Of course > Dukes is a soap; it's part of CBS's Friday evening of soaps. The Dukes of Hazzard is no more a soap than Three's Company, Alice, etc. It is comedy. No more, no less. Any attempts to classify it otherwise are ridiculous. -- Be ye moby, for I am moby. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, eagle!mit-vax, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds Joy is in the ears that hear.
rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (05/16/84)
> Well, I wouldn't call Dallas/Dynasty serious literature, although it is > somewhat more realistic than GH has been of late (since the Casadines > and the Freezing of Port Charles). However, no soap is as serious as > Hill Street or St. Elsewhere. Would you have called Family a soap? (I > know it didn't have continued episodes.) Even if it did, I wouldn't > have called it one. HSB/St. Elsewhere are continuing episode dramas. > They are not nighttime soaps. They are meant to be taken seriously. Referring to a nighttime soap as a "continuing episode drama" is roughly analogous to calling a nighttime game show a "knowledge-based inquisitional prize incentive program" (or calling a missile a "Peacekeeper"?). Lyndon LaRouche is also meant to be taken seriously. Just tacking on a pretentious name does not make something somehow more serious. I do believe that HSB et al *is* certainly a much higher quality program than Dallas/Dynasty (with their sweeping non-character non-development), but let's not get carried away with pretentious doublespeak names. Let's call a soap a soap. > > Hey, I watch Hill Street, but I only watch Dynasty to get a peek at > > Joan Collins. My favorite evening soap is, of course, Dukes of > > Hazzard ("Can't you see I'm dun fer?" "Dun fer? Why that's a word that > > Dukes don't know the meaning of!" [AMONG MANY OTHERS] ). Of course > > Dukes is a soap; it's part of CBS's Friday evening of soaps. > > The Dukes of Hazzard is no more a soap than Three's Company, Alice, etc. > It is comedy. No more, no less. Any attempts to classify it otherwise > are ridiculous. It *was* supposed to be a joke... ["We're dunfer!!"] -- "So, it was all a dream!" --Mr. Pither "No, dear, this is the dream; you're still in the cell." --his mother Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlr
moriarty@uw-june.UUCP (05/17/84)
There's an idea! Let's get Sidney Sheldon to script "The Dukes of Hazzard"... God knows it's up to his Standards. Dialogue like: Boss Hogg to Roscoe: "Ah've always had fantasies ahbout you, me & youh dawg...." Luke and Bo having a strange relationship with the General Lee, etc. The Napoleon of Crime | Currently skulking around | UUCP: MORIARTY | {ihnp4,decvax,tektronix}!uw-beaver!uw-june!moriarty | ARPANET: AKA -jwm- | moriarty@washington
kaufman@uiucdcs.UUCP (05/17/84)
#R:ihuxr:-107500:uiucdcs:19200032:000:384 uiucdcs!kaufman May 17 13:10:00 1984 /**** uiucdcs:net.tv / gds@mit-eddi / 9:06 am May 16, 1984 ****/ The Dukes of Hazzard is no more a soap than Three's Company, Alice, etc. It is comedy. No more, no less. Any attempts to classify it otherwise are ridiculous. Greg Skinner (gregbo) /* ---------- */ I hope you're not implying that Three's Company is comedy!!! Take Dallas, Dynasty, etc. to net.tv.soaps. PLEASE!
gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) (05/20/84)
<kilroy was here>
Three's Company *was* comedy. It's hard to tell what it is now. It
seems rather silly. Look at the early episodes with the Ropers. Those
were the funnier episodes. (I used to roll whenever Stanley and Helen
cracked on each other.)
Three's Company is going to be renamed Three's a Crowd next season and
it seems like Janet and Terri are out. Jack met a girl on the end
episode of Three's Company and it looks like he is going to be living
with her (unmarried). Also, it looks like the girl's father is living
there also. (Sigh. They should've canned it.)
--
Be ye moby,
for I am moby.
Greg Skinner (gregbo)
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Joy is in the ears that hear.