[net.tv] 2 Old TV Shows...Who remembers...?

evan@petfe.UUCP (Evan Marcus) (04/13/85)

I've got 2 relatively old TV shows for you old TV buffs (people who like old
TVs?  :-) )...

1 is a cartoon.  All I remember is the title:  Cool McCool.  I think he was
a detective, and I think his theme song was Love is Blue.  Anyone know more?

The other was a sci-fi TV show that I only saw in syndication.  It starred 3
young actors (one was Keir Dullea of 2001/2010 fame).  They were on a huge
spaceship (ark I think they called it), and wandered from room to room and met
up with races of people who didn't seem to know they were on a ship.  Kind of
similar to Otherworld in a way.  That's about all I remember, but if you're
in the NYC area, I think it was on late in the afternoon (5:30ish) on Saturday
or Sunday, on Channel 4 (WNBC).

Can anyone help? 

Thanks...
Evan Marcus
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root@trwatf.UUCP (Lord Frith) (04/15/85)

> The other was a sci-fi TV show that I only saw in syndication.  It starred 3
> young actors (one was Keir Dullea of 2001/2010 fame).  They were on a huge
> spaceship (ark I think they called it), and wandered from room to room and met
> up with races of people who didn't seem to know they were on a ship.  Kind of
> similar to Otherworld in a way.  That's about all I remember, but if you're
> in the NYC area, I think it was on late in the afternoon (5:30ish) on Saturday
> or Sunday, on Channel 4 (WNBC).

This one was called "The Starlost" a Canadian production that aired in the
Washington DC area back in 1973.  As I recall the first episode aired the same
week "Silent Running" made it's first appearance on TV (not doing too well
at the box office).

Keir Dullea did indeed play the lead role of "Devon" in this notably bad
(but still fun) production.

"And there's this ship's wheel on the bridge, see?"  "And it's turing
back and forth 'cause the ship is totally lost in space and out of
control, see?......."
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johnt@utai.UUCP (John Turner) (04/15/85)

> I've got 2 relatively old TV shows for you old TV buffs (people who like old
> TVs?  :-) )...
> 
> 1 is a cartoon.  All I remember is the title:  Cool McCool.  I think he was
> a detective, and I think his theme song was Love is Blue.  Anyone know more?
> 
> The other was a sci-fi TV show that I only saw in syndication.  It starred 3
> young actors (one was Keir Dullea of 2001/2010 fame).  They were on a huge
> spaceship (ark I think they called it), and wandered from room to room and met
> up with races of people who didn't seem to know they were on a ship.  Kind of
> similar to Otherworld in a way.  That's about all I remember, but if you're
> in the NYC area, I think it was on late in the afternoon (5:30ish) on Saturday
> or Sunday, on Channel 4 (WNBC).
> 
> Can anyone help? 
> 
> Thanks...
> Evan Marcus
> ...{decvax|ucbvax}!vax135!petsd!pedsgd!pedsga!evan
> 
> There are two kinds of people in the world, those who divide people into two 
> groups, and those who don't.

	The second show referred to above was a canadian production 
from the early seventies called "Starlost". It was made up of one hour
weekly episodes in which the main characters (Devon, Garth and Rachel)
explored the spaceship "Ark".  
	The Ark is a deep space colonisation ship (or something) in
the form of a (connected) graph.  The nodes were called "pods" and
each held a self contained ecology with its own human society.
The societies were at different levels of technological advancemant.
We are not sure why it was launched in the first place, but seem to
remember hints to the effect of a catastrophy on earth.  There was an
accident at some point and all of the crew was killed and the ship thrown
off course, into a collision course with something.  The various societies
are then left on their own, many even forgetting that they are on a ship.
We are not quite sure why Devon (Kier Dullea)and Rachel left their pod in 
the first place (something about being in love), but then Garth followed.  
This was not unreasonable since he was supposed to marry her.
	They travel from pod to pod, eventually discovering the catastrophy
and the collision course.  The episodes then follow their explorations
looking for a backup bridge (the original was destroyed), or a society
advanced enough to do something about the problem.


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de@moscom.UUCP (Dave Esan) (04/24/85)

> The other was a sci-fi TV show that I only saw in syndication.  It starred 3
> young actors (one was Keir Dullea of 2001/2010 fame).  They were on a huge
> spaceship (ark I think they called it), and wandered from room to room and met
> up with races of people who didn't seem to know they were on a ship.  Kind of
> similar to Otherworld in a way.  That's about all I remember, but if you're
> in the NYC area, I think it was on late in the afternoon (5:30ish) on Saturday
> or Sunday, on Channel 4 (WNBC).

I too cannot recall the name of the show, though I believe it was the Spacelost,
but I do recall that it was written (originally) by Harlan Ellison.  Apparently
the producers screwed around with it so much that he removed his name from the
show.  There was a book written about the experience, I believe by Ben Bova,
called the Starcrossed (?), that detailed the experience though in a fictional
account.  I seem to remember Ellison claiming he would sue because Bova wrote
verbatim what Ellison wanted to write.

David Esan
(!moscom!de)

broehl@wateng.UUCP (Bernie Roehl) (04/26/85)

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The series was in fact called "The Starlost".  It was conceived (and the
pilot was written) by Harlan Ellison.  When Ellison saw the resulting
program, he was *extremely* unhappy with it, and refused to have his name
appear in the credits.  (He supplied them with a pseudonym, "Cordwainer
Bird" that conveyed some small portion of his contempt).  Ellison subse-
quently wrote a book called "The Starcrossed", dealing with the whole
incident.

Ben Bova was the technical consultant for the series.


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muffy@lll-crg.ARPA (Muffy Barkocy) (05/04/85)

In article <2314@wateng.UUCP> broehl@wateng.UUCP (Bernie Roehl) writes:
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>The series was in fact called "The Starlost".  It was conceived (and the
>pilot was written) by Harlan Ellison.  When Ellison saw the resulting
>program, he was *extremely* unhappy with it, and refused to have his name
>appear in the credits.  (He supplied them with a pseudonym, "Cordwainer
>Bird" that conveyed some small portion of his contempt).  Ellison subse-
>quently wrote a book called "The Starcrossed", dealing with the whole
>incident.
>
>Ben Bova was the technical consultant for the series.
>
>
>-- 
>        -Bernie Roehl    (University of Waterloo)
>	...decvax!watmath!wateng!broehl


Not *quite*.  Ellison was displeased well before seeing the pilot.  He did
not write "The Starcrossed" (a good book, though).  
Ben Bova wrote "The Starcrossed," which is a fictional version of what
happened to "The Starlost."  Bear in mind that this is *very* fictional.
There is another book, "Phoenix Without Ashes," which is the novelization of
the first (pilot) script that Ellison wrote.  There are comments in the
beginning of this book "I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto," (more
or less the title) is the essay, which has appeared other places, as well.
Ed Bryant wrote the novelization of this script.  At this year's Worldcon,
someone asked Ed Bryant whether the other two scripts that Ellison wrote
would ever get novellized (as had apparently been planned), but he said that
was up to Ellison.
The original script for "Phoenix Without Ashes" (*not* the one that was
produced and shown) won an award, and is published in an anthology edited by
George Zebrowski and Jack Dann, "Faster Than Light."

                            Muffy