[net.tv] Bugs Bunny fan needs help!!

simms@h-sc1.UUCP (paul simms) (05/01/85)

*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
Can anyone tell me whether Warner Bros. has released video
cassettes of 50's-60's cartoons (esp. Chuck M. Jones' Bugs
Bunnys, and any Daffy Ducks, Foghorn Leghorns, Elmer Fudds,
etc. of the same period - emphasis on Martin Martian)?  I
think I remember hearing of one once.  I am trying to find
some to rent in the Boston area, if indeed such tapes exist.
	Any information would be helpful.

		"Being disintegrated makes me very angry..."
			-Martin Martian

dwl10@amdahl.UUCP (Dave Lowrey) (05/06/85)

> *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
> Can anyone tell me whether Warner Bros. has released video
> cassettes of 50's-60's cartoons (esp. Chuck M. Jones' Bugs
> Bunnys, and any Daffy Ducks, Foghorn Leghorns, Elmer Fudds,
> etc. of the same period - emphasis on Martin Martian)?  I
> think I remember hearing of one once.  I am trying to find
> some to rent in the Boston area, if indeed such tapes exist.

The only ones that I know of are packaged as a "movie". They take a
common theme, make about 10 minuites of new cartoons, and fill the
rest with EDITED oldies. There are about 4 or 5 titles at least (we have
three on disk). The worst part of them is the new cartoons that fill
in between the originals!
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                               Dave Lowrey

"To vacillate or not to vacillate, that is the question....
 ....or is it?"
                                   ...!{nsc,sun,hplabs,ihnp4}!amdahl!dwl10

[ The opinions expressed <may> be those of the author and not necessarily
  those of his most eminent employer. ]

man@bocar.UUCP (M Nevar) (05/07/85)

>> Can anyone tell me whether Warner Bros. has released video
>> cassettes of 50's-60's cartoons (esp. Chuck M. Jones' Bugs
>> Bunnys, and any Daffy Ducks, Foghorn Leghorns, Elmer Fudds,
>> etc. of the same period - emphasis on Martin Martian)?  I
>> think I remember hearing of one once.  I am trying to find
>> some to rent in the Boston area, if indeed such tapes exist.
>
>The only ones that I know of are packaged as a "movie". They take a
>common theme, make about 10 minuites of new cartoons, and fill the
>rest with EDITED oldies. There are about 4 or 5 titles at least (we have
>three on disk). The worst part of them is the new cartoons that fill
>in between the originals!

Yeah, but these movies are horribly edited.  They leave out the best
scenes in every one of the originals.

							Mark Nevar

man@bocar.UUCP (M Nevar) (05/08/85)

Well, well, well.

I was recently in a Video Shack (a small chain of stores (4)), that
advertises themselves as the largest in the country in terms of
videos available.  Well, they have a LARGE book of videos. So, I leafed (sp?)
through it looking for your suggestion, and it does exist.  It is called
Warner Brothers Cartoon Classics Vol. 1-4.  Four different video tapes.
Each is 55 minutes long.  The description said something like:
All the classics from Wacky Wabbit to (I can't remember).  Wacky Wabbit
is, BTW, the first Bugs Bunny cartoon.  Mel Blanc hadn't finalized the
voice yet, and Bugs' shape isn't the familiar one, either.  To top it
off, the cartoon isn't that great.  I may rent it just to check out the
quality as compared to the ones being broadcasted on TV today.  If it's good,
I may actually ''buy'' them.  Anyway, since it is available, your local
video dealer may get it for you.  The ones around here (NJ) say they'll
get movies for me if they are available.

A bit of trivia:  Mel blanc did ALL WB voices except one.  Which one ?
If no one gets it, I'll post the answer in a week.


						Eh, what's up dogs,
						Mark

shiue@h-sc1.UUCP (steve shiue) (05/11/85)

The answer to the trivia question (which WB cartoon voice DIDN'T come
from Mel Blanc?) is, I believe, the Granny voice in the Tweety Bird
cartoons.  I can't cite an actual printed source, but I think I've heard
this from several people who know about such things.

	By the way, I have discovered that there are actually quite a
few tapes of Warner Bros., MGM, and Disney cartoons floating around out
there. (Disney seems to have released a massive library.)  Being
primarily interested in the Warner Bros. stuff, I've looked into that a
little bit.  There are a lot of titles, such as Looney Tunes #1-3, Best
of Warner Bros. Cartoons, etc.  (Just check the children's/animation
sections in video stores and ask around.)  I haven't managed to find
'50's and '60's cartoons around yet, but they probably exist - although
someone has suggested that the only reason you might find the older
ones available is because copyrights may have worn out on these
already. Some of the Bugs classics from Chuck Jones are on "The Bugs
Bunny Road Runner Movie", but these are spliced together and probably
edited.  Some of the collections I've seen seem to be of quasi-legal
origins (one had "Personally taped by RM" or some such thing on a
sticker on it, and didn't have the FBI sticker).
	In watching some of these cartoons, it's pretty hard to miss how
incredibly racist some of the ones from the '30's and '40's are.  For
example, in one, Bugs spends the cartoon tormenting Elmer Fudd, who is a
Canadian Mountie.  At the end, Elmer has apprehended Bugs, who faces a
firing squad.  Elmer asks Bugs if he has any last wishes.  Bugs:  "Lemme
see... I wish... I wish... I wish I was in Dixie, hoo-ray, hoo-ray"  The
firing squad, Bugs, & Elmer all become black minstrels in a minstrel
show, and sing Camptown Races and a few more things before the Warner
Bros. sign off.  And in general, "natives" are all savage cannibals who
wear bones in their hair and are essentially monkeys in physical
appearance (there is one in which Porky Pig plays a Robinsone Crusoe
type role where this happens, but there are numerous examples...).

					-Steve Shiue

	"Never send a monster to do the work of an evil scientist."