moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) (10/29/85)
Two things on last week's Hill Street: Anyone noticed that part of the opening credits, with the ever-vivid shots of the police cars patrolling the streets, is shot in black & white (or at least with very dull color)? I don't remember that being true last year. And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week. Mick is knocked unconscious and placed in a duffle bag, which is shipped by bus to Springfield, Ill. His trek takes place in the morning, and he reaches Springfield by noon, and returns to the city that the Hill resides in by evening, in time to put the bite (!) on the perpatrator. Thus, which city does HSB take place in? You have 10 minutes... Chicago. Dum-da-DUM-DUM.... "Just remember: Abraham Lincoln didn't die in vain. He died in Washington, D.C." Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer ARPA: fluke!moriarty@uw-beaver.ARPA UUCP: {uw-beaver, sun, allegra, sb6, lbl-csam}!fluke!moriarty <*> DISCLAIMER: Do what you want with me, but leave my employers alone! <*>
rlp@cbosgd.UUCP (Bob Platt) (10/30/85)
In article <2854@vax4.fluke.UUCP>, moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) writes: > And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to > where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week. Mick is > knocked unconscious and placed in a duffle bag, which is shipped > by bus to Springfield, Ill. His trek takes place in the morning, and > he reaches Springfield by noon, and returns to the city that the Hill > resides in by evening, in time to put the bite (!) on the perpatrator. > Thus, which city does HSB take place in? You have 10 minutes... > > Chicago. I believe, they said "Springfield", not "Springfield, Ill.", My copy of Webster's lists: Springfield, Ill. Springfield, Mass. Springfield, Mo. Springfield, Oh. Springfield, Ore. -- +----+ R. L. Platt /| /| AT&T Bell Laboratories +-|--+ | Columbus, Ohio | +--|-+ |/ |/ cbosgd!rlp +----+ (614) 860-4850 "They say it's automatic, but actually you have to push this button"
render@uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU (10/30/85)
moriarty writes: > And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to > where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week. Mick is > knocked unconscious and placed in a duffle bag, which is shipped > by bus to Springfield, Ill. His trek takes place in the morning, and > he reaches Springfield by noon, and returns to the city that the Hill > resides in by evening, in time to put the bite (!) on the perpatrator. > Thus, which city does HSB take place in? You have 10 minutes... I watched the episode in question, and I did not hear anyone say Springfield ILLINOIS. There are cities named Springfield in several states, including one in Massachusetts which could be reached from either Boston or NYC in less than a day's time. I don't want this to start another round of "What city is HSB really set in?", however, so I will admit that much of the opening was shot in Chicago, with clips from various other cities interspersed. I do wonder at times about the pathological need of netters to explain every single detail of a fictional setting. Remember folks, it ain't real. Hal Render University of Illinois {pur-ee, ihnp4} ! uiucdcs ! render render@uiuc.csnet render@uiuc.arpa
karn@petrus.UUCP (Phil R. Karn) (10/31/85)
> I watched the episode in question, and I did not hear anyone say Springfield > ILLINOIS. Yes, but I also heard the names Elgin and Evanston mentioned, all cities near Chicago. Along with the shots of the "el" in the opening, that's good enough for me. Phil
wiso@ihwpt.UUCP (Jack Wisowaty) (11/01/85)
> > > And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to > > where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week. Mick is > > knocked unconscious and placed in a duffle bag, which is shipped > > by bus to Springfield, Ill. His trek takes place in the morning, and > > he reaches Springfield by noon, and returns to the city that the Hill > > resides in by evening, in time to put the bite (!) on the perpatrator. > > Thus, which city does HSB take place in? You have 10 minutes... > > I watched the episode in question, and I did not hear anyone say Springfield > ILLINOIS. There are cities named Springfield in several states, including > one in Massachusetts which could be reached from either Boston or NYC in less > than a day's time. I don't want this to start another round of "What city is > HSB really set in?", however, so I will admit that much of the opening was > shot in Chicago, with clips from various other cities interspersed. I do > wonder at times about the pathological need of netters to explain every single > detail of a fictional setting. Remember folks, it ain't real. > What makes this discussion interesting is that the producers of HSB seem to be toying with us. It was absolutely clear that they intended us to get the Chicago reference in this episode. Yes there are a number of Springfields around, but how many of them have local buses arriving from Evanston, Glen Ellyn, and Elgin, as this bus was announced on its arrival? Only Chicago, I trust. But even after they gave this incredibly blatant "hint" they refuse to come out say Chicago and instead just call it the City. I don't think a discussion of this running gag that the producers are playing is pathological. They obviously intended us to make inferences about the location or they wouldn't keep throwing these tidbits in. So cut us some slack if we want to play along with the game. Jack Wisowaty AT&T Bell Labs Naperville, IL
cal@pyramid.UUCP (Craig Levin) (11/01/85)
But if you looked closely at the package thrown on Mick while he was in the bus luggage compartment. It specified Springfield, XX, on the address. Unfortunately I do not remember what XX was. Did anyone tape this episode?
bobn@bmcg.UUCP (Bob Nebert) (11/01/85)
> And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to > where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week. Mick is > knocked unconscious and placed in a duffle bag, which is shipped > by bus to Springfield, Ill. His trek takes place in the morning, and > he reaches Springfield by noon, and returns to the city that the Hill > resides in by evening, in time to put the bite (!) on the perpatrator. > Thus, which city does HSB take place in? You have 10 minutes... > > Chicago. > The show never said Ill. They just said Springfield. It could have been Springfield Mass. But having lived in Chicago I vote for Chicago anyway. What other Large city has L trains and serves 'Old Style" beer?
notch@srcsip.UUCP (Michael k Notch) (11/03/85)
In article <12300044@uiucdcsb> render@uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU writes: > >moriarty writes: >> And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to >> where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week. Mick is >> knocked unconscious and placed in a duffle bag, which is shipped >> by bus to Springfield, Ill. His trek takes place in the morning, and >> he reaches Springfield by noon, and returns to the city that the Hill >> resides in by evening, in time to put the bite (!) on the perpatrator. >> Thus, which city does HSB take place in? You have 10 minutes... > Either I missed something or I don not understand the dicussion, but as far as I know, HSB is in New Yok City. -- This posting is just an illusion. Nothing here is real. But... What about Naomi? USENET: ihnp4!umn-cs!srcsip!notch US-SMAIL: Michael k Notch (The small k is on purpose) Honeywell Inc. Minneapolis, Minnesota 55440 MN17-2349 SIP/SRC/MVT [1-612-378-5338] --
moose@ames.UUCP (Mary Kaiser) (11/05/85)
> In article <2854@vax4.fluke.UUCP>, moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) writes: > > And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to > > where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week.... > > Chicago. > > I believe, they said "Springfield", not "Springfield, Ill.", > My copy of Webster's lists: > > Springfield, Ill. > Springfield, Mass. > Springfield, Mo. > Springfield, Oh. > Springfield, Ore. Yes, my first response was "how clever to use Springfield, since practically every state has one", but then some of the packages on the bus were clearly marked Springfield, ILL !!!! The problem with placing HSB in Chicago, is that this doesn't jive with some previous information, e.g.: In the first or second season, Davenport was upset about a case and so drove to "the coast" to think things over (she was back in a few hours). Now, I don't know anyone from Chicago who calls their lakefront "the coast". (The North Coast?) The precinct and street names don't jive with Chicago's layout, not to mention problems with city government figures (yes, Chicago has a Black mayor, but Harold Washington is nothing like Ozzie Cleveland, except they both share names with presidents and cities...something that Renko once noted about as I recall). It's interesting that HSB has tried so hard to keep their locale anonymous while other series are rife with location information (Cagney & Lacey go so far as to show "Welcome to Queens" signs, etc.). I've heard hypotheses that HSB is in Pittsburgh (since Bochco and many HSB actors are Carnegie- Mellon grads), and of course New York and Chicago. Anyway, my only certainty is that it's not L.A., Tacoma, or Omaha.
pape@sjuvax.UUCP (M. Pape) (11/06/85)
In article <1572@cbosgd.UUCP> rlp@cbosgd.UUCP writes: >In article <2854@vax4.fluke.UUCP>, moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) writes: >> And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to >> where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week. Mick is >> knocked unconscious and placed in a duffle bag, which is shipped >> by bus to Springfield, Ill. His trek takes place in the morning, and >> he reaches Springfield by noon, and returns to the city that the Hill >> resides in by evening, in time to put the bite (!) on the perpatrator. >> Thus, which city does HSB take place in? You have 10 minutes... >> >> Chicago. > >I believe, they said "Springfield", not "Springfield, Ill.", >My copy of Webster's lists: > > Springfield, Ill. > Springfield, Mass. > Springfield, Mo. > Springfield, Oh. > Springfield, Ore. >-- > +----+ R. L. Platt > /| /| AT&T Bell Laboratories > +-|--+ | Columbus, Ohio > | +--|-+ > |/ |/ cbosgd!rlp > +----+ (614) 860-4850 > > "They say it's automatic, but actually you have to push this button" I'm not to sure about this but I seem to remember, from a couple of years back, that whem St. Elsewhere was premeriering(sp?) it was shown right after HSB. and to introduce it to tv land, they incorporated it into HSB. During the HSB episode, an accident occured and when the ambulance arrived the driver said that they were taking the victim to St. Eligus Hospital, which we all know is located in Boston. Forgive me if this is not the correct story, it was told to me by a friend. Morgan Pape
black@unc.UUCP (Samuel Black) (11/09/85)
> In article <2854@vax4.fluke.UUCP>, moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) writes: > > I believe, they said "Springfield", not "Springfield, Ill.", > My copy of Webster's lists: > > Springfield, Ill. > Springfield, Mass. > Springfield, Mo. > Springfield, Oh. > Springfield, Ore. Several years ago, I went through the World Book and found that 28 states have a Springfield (it may be more, now). But we also know for a fact that Hill Street takes place in the midwest because of the "Old Style" beer signs. Chicago seems likely because of the elevated railway. ---------------------------------- When I die, I'm going to leave my body to science fiction. ...!{decvax,ihnp4}!mcnc!unc!black (usenet) black%unc@csnet-relay.csnet (arpanet) ----------------------------------
hxe@rayssd.UUCP (Heather Emanuel) (11/16/85)
> And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to > where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week. Mick is > knocked unconscious and placed in a duffle bag, which is shipped > by bus to Springfield, Ill. His trek takes place in the morning, and > he reaches Springfield by noon, and returns to the city that the Hill > resides in by evening, in time to put the bite (!) on the perpatrator. > Thus, which city does HSB take place in? You have 10 minutes... ........ > Chicago. Wait a minute. Did it actually *say* Illinois on the duffle bag? I looked for it but didn't see any mention of a state, and there's a Springfield in almost every state in the US. Just asking.... -- --Heather Emanuel {allegra, decvax!brunix, linus, raybed2} rayssd!hxe -------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't think my company *has* an opinion, so the ones in this article are obviously my own. -------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ain't life a brook... Sometimes I feel just like a polished stone" -Ferron
mcewan@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (11/22/85)
> And remember all those arguments we had last year pertaining to > where Hill Street actually takes place? Solved last week. Mick is > knocked unconscious and placed in a duffle bag, which is shipped > by bus to Springfield, Ill. His trek takes place in the morning, and > he reaches Springfield by noon, and returns to the city that the Hill > resides in by evening, in time to put the bite (!) on the perpatrator. > Thus, which city does HSB take place in? You have 10 minutes... > > Chicago. There are several large cities close to Springfield. Depending on how long the trip was (I haven't seen the episode), some possibilities are: St. Louis, Indianapolis, Cincinati and Kansas City. Note that St. Louis and Indianapolis are CLOSER than Chicago. Scott McEwan {ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!mcewan "A flash in front of my eyes ... I blink ... open my eyes to ... discover I am a dog in a pickup truck full of garbage ... no one but me sees the lid blow off the can ... it's 14 miles to the dump ... this is ... at last ... heaven."