[net.audio] linear vs minimal phase Long and Technical

logo (12/05/82)

First, I would like to thank everyone who has been attempting to clear up my
misstatment on linear and minimal phase.  I realized that I understood it
incompletely, although I did not realize the degree of error.  I especially
appreciate the less flaming, more tutorial responses.  I have never come close
to reaching my limit of techinal and theoretical interest in audio, but
sometimes a discussion jumps out of my technical league without the ladder to
reach that level being provided.

I think that the most recent suggestion was that the digital recorder/all pass
filter pair could or would be used to get to a linear phase response.
A recent article in the Journal of the Audio Engineering Society (JAES)
(subject was midrange phase differences and timbre perception) indicated
that differences in timbre ARE heard in the presence of a constant phase
shift in the midrange.  A 'easy to conduct' (if you have a couple of sine
wave generators and a scope, that is (i don't)) experiment is described which
demonstrates the phenomena.  If I understood the article correctly, a linear
phase response for the recorder system is not good enough, we need zero phase
shift.

Also, I would appreciate suggestions of references or texts.  As calibration,
the tail end of chapter one of Rabiner and Gold 'Theory and Application 
of Digital Signal Processing' becomes to poorly motivated for me to follow
well, as well as being on the (far) edge of the mathematics which I am
currently facil with.


  David (Reisner)
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vax2:toms (12/07/82)

For a more readable discussion of signal distortion, try "Communication
Systems" by A. Bruce Carlson.  Section 4.2 (in the second edition) is
entitled 'Signal Distortion in Transmission' and discusses causes and
effects of amplitude distortion, phase shift and delay distortion, and
nonlinear distortion, as well as covering the concepts of equalization
and companding.  The math involved requires an understanding of Fourier
analysis.  It is much simpler than the z-transform analysis involved in
Rabiner and Schafer.

The idea of using all-pass networks to achieve linear phase delay is
very similar to the concepts of equalization discussed in the above
reference.  In equalization, the idea is to remove undesirable
distortions in a signal by passing it through a filter which has the
opposite effect of the network causing the distortion.  This technique
is commonly used to restore voice signals which have been distorted
while being transmitted over very long telephone links.  The ideal
output of the equalization network is an exact duplicate of the
original voice signal.

In contrast, the ideal output of typical linear phase delay filters is
a distorted version of the input.  The desired distortion is a change
in the amplitude spectrum of the signal.  The signal is passed through
a filter to achieve the desired amplitude distortion.  However the
filter will change the phase spectrum of the signal as well as changing
the amplitude spectrum.  This phase distortion is an undesired effect
of the filtering process.  To remove this phase distortion, the signal
is passed through an all-pass filter which restores the original phase
spectrum of the signal in much as an equalization network restores a
signal.  The difference between an all-pass filter and an equalization
network is that the latter will change the amplitude response of the
signal whereas the former will not.

Tom Sager       John Fluke Mfg. Co. Inc.        Seattle, WA