[net.audio] Poor record quality - can anything be done?

ili (04/12/83)

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ili (04/12/83)

	I know that the problem of poor quality records (clicks and
pops on the surface upon the first playing) and the ethics of home 
taping has been discussed (probably more than once) on the net. I
don't mean to start up that discussion again but to look at it from another
angle.

	I have spent mucho buck$ to put together a decent system and
am now experiencing the frustration of good eqpt. and lousy program
material.

	Is there anything that we (net.audioers) can do as a concerted
group effort to let the proper people know how we feel?

Ira Idelson
American Bell

sdo (04/13/83)

I always get even for poor quality products by writing poor
quality software.

		Scott Orshan

jeff (04/13/83)

The general feeling is that foreign pressings are superior to domestic
pressings, and that you shouldn`t hope for too much on pop records
anyway.

Are you sure it`s the record`s fault?  A spinning record, especially
a static-charged one, will attract dust from the air due to both
the charge and the aerodynamics of the atmosphere above the platter.
Therefore, you should use a static de-charger before every player
(e.g., Zero-Stat); use a Dust Bug or equivalent brush that tracks
the record as it plays; and keep the dust cover on your player
while playing.

The problem of dust accumulation during play makes pre-play cleaning
insufficient.

Really abused records--ones that have been played with dirt on them--have
to be washed.  You can actually do this in a regular dishwasher using
dishwashing soap if the water temperature isn`t too high.  Few people
believe this, however, and few ever try it.

In Japan there are several record vacuums that have motor-driven
plush rollers which simultaneously sweep and vacuum; they`re about
the size of a pocket calculator and rotate around the center hole of
the record while the record is on the turntable, to cover the entire
surface.  One, made by Hitachi, is called the "Lo-D" and costs about
$10.  It`s quite effective for dust which has not yet been ground
into the grooves, and as a pre-playing treatment (before all the
other steps recommended before and during play).

And, people say that once a record has been played wet --i.e., with
a groove-follower wetted with an anti-static or other cleaning fluid--
it always has to be played wet.  Thus, use your Dust Bug dry.  Once
you see a Dust Bug, you`ll understand.
jeff

kar (04/13/83)

How can we audioers express our discontent with the quality of records?

	Express your displeasure via the marketplace.  If you get a record that
is of poor quality, take it back and exchange it.  If the next one is also a
dud, take it back too.  Repeat until you get a good one.

	If they're all bad, suggest (after the 6th or 7th exchange) an exchange
for a record of equal value on a different label.  The store management might
just consider you enough of a nuisance by then to let you do it.

	As for the manufacturers:  if they start getting cases of records that
consumers have complained about back from retailers, they might take notice.  
It would certainly affect their (allegedly minute) profit margins.

	This method requires an investment of time on your part, but if every-
body does it we may get somewhere.  (What a crock!  Where have you heard that
before?)

	- Ken Reek, Rochester Institute of Technology
	ucbvax!allegra!rochester!ritcv!kar

davee (04/14/83)

The only thing I have found to combat poor record quality is to
buy imports. This may not be acceptable to most of you, since
record stores usually carry imports of records not available
in the US. Being a punk, this means that I can get what I
want as an import, but others have a problem. Half speed master
records are fine if you like the kind of records that come
out. The only other way is to (God forbid) tape the records
when they are played on the radio. That way it doesn't cost
you, except by rising record costs due to home tapers.

			David