mclure%sri-prism@sri-unix.UUCP (08/28/84)
Administrivia
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>From now on, English notation will be included for all moves.
Also, if you feel very strongly about a given move, you may send
a comment to the list in an attempt to convince others of your
worthy cause as one player here did with his move which won.
The next move will be sent out around September 3rd-5th. I will
be out of town during this period, although still reading mail.
The Vote Tally
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The winner is: 9 ... Bg4 (B-KN5)
A total of 24 moves were cast.
The Machine Moves
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Depth Move Time for search Nodes Machine's Estimate
8 ply d5 17 hours, 8 minutes 6.5x10^7 +=
(P-Q5)
Humans Move # Votes
BR ** -- BQ BK BB -- BR 9 ... Bg4 (B-N5) 12
** BP ** -- ** BP BP BP 9 ... Be7 (B-K2) 6
BP ** BN BP -- BN -- ** 9 ... exd4 (PXP) 3
** -- ** WP BP -- ** -- 9 ... Qb6 (Q-N3) 3
-- ** -- ** WP ** BB ** 9 ... h5 (P-KR4) 1
** -- ** -- ** WN ** --
WP WP -- ** -- WP WP WP
WR WN WB WQ WR WB WK --
Prestige 8-ply
The machine still thinks it is ahead positionally. Its evaluation
improved by about 8% of a pawn over the last position.
The Game So Far
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1. e4 (P-K4) c5 (P-QB4) 6. Re1 (R-K1) a6 (P-QR3)
2. Nf3 (N-KB3) d6 (P-Q3) 7. Bf1 (B-KB1) e5 (P-K4)
3. Bb5+(B-N5ch) Nc6 (N-QB3) 8. d4 (P-Q4) cxd4 (PXP)
4. o-o (O-O) Bd7 (B-Q2) 9. cxd4 (PXP) Bg4 (B-N5)
5. c3 (P-QB3) Nf6 (N-KB3) 10. d5 (P-Q5)
Commentary
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From Wilkins <WILKINS@SRI-AI.ARPA>, USCF ?
Regarding Sloan's analysis of why the machine
thought it was behind after book: he leaves out
the most likely explanation, namely, that the
evaluation function is wrong sometimes (try
writing one yourself if you think you can always
get the "right" answer). Concluding that the
opening line does not match the machine's style
from the negative evaluation assumes that the
evaluation is correct with respect to the
machine's style (unlikely).
From John W. Perry <JPERRY@SRI-KL.ARPA>, USCF 1890ish
I don't see why everybody is worried about Black's king being in the
center since black CANNOT force the king file to be opened. Black's best
9th move seems very clear to me 9...Bg4. Following this move I don't see
how White can proceed favorably. 10 d5 will lead to 10...Nd4 which will
lead to several possibilities none of which look good for white --- either
a loss of the two bishops or a breakup of pawns on his castled kingside.
If White counters with Nbd2 and then white cannot use his queen knight
to occupy the hole on d5. In summary, it appears that most positional
trumps are in black's favor --- he can occupy the QB file quicker than
From: Bernard Gunther <BMG@MIT-XX.ARPA>, USCF 1800ish
My vote goes to: 9: Bg4
This forces action in the middle of the board while allowing us
to get out of the problem of having an isolated pawn.
From: rod@Maryland.arpa (Rodrigo Fontecilla), USCF ?
I must apologize for my past analysis. I had the wrong position.
e5 wasn't that bad after all.
My vote is for
9...., Bg4
forcing 10. dxe and the game is even after
10.....,exd
11.Qxd8 Rxd8
or
11. Qb3 Be7
12 Bg5 0-0
Solicitation
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