shauns@tekcad.UUCP (09/01/83)
Ah, yes. Mr. Francois has found out the problem with extreme single-band compansion. I have used a dbx 228 with my Nakamichi for 5 years, and it works well except on source material with radical rapid changes in amplitude and a high noise level, such as piano music on LPs. Getting into the Pink Floyd discussion, dbx also breathes on the heartbeat at the beginning and end of Dark Side of the Moon. Outboard dbx units or better tape decks do not solve the breathing problem; the cause lies in the fact that dbx uses a 2:1 compression ratio independent of frequency (which translates to >40dB of noise reduction). If the recorded signal does not mask the noise by being in the same frequency range, the result is perceptible noise floor modulation. Dolby addresses this problem by limiting the amount of compansion to <20dB and by using a sliding cutoff filter to constrain compansion to the frequency range of the source. Gain is thus modulated only in the band that the signal occupies, which reduces breathing. Because of this, on the source material mentioned above Dolby C will have less breathing than dbx with comparable noise reduction. Dolby B and C, however, are absolute level sensing variable compansion ratio systems and therefore are extremely sensitive to tape deck frequency response aberrations and Dolby reference level mismatch. Dolby C, with its greater noise reduction, is correspondingly more sensitive than Dolby B. This is one reason why it's difficult to transport tapes between decks and obtain the same frequency response. Since dbx's compansion ratio is constant over amplitude, one can trade a few dB of ultimate S/N for high frequency headroom by moving the compressed input signal around within the recorder's dynamic range. Dolby can't do this; its fixed threshold makes it strictly a noise reducer. To pull off this trick, processing must occur before record levels are set, easy with an outboard dbx. I suspect that most onboard dbx systems process the signal after record levels are set, thereby eliminating what is for me dbx's most useful feature. dbx does not breathe if source noise levels are low, such as in the recording of live music. For LP transcription, Dolby C is completely sufficient. What I would like to see from dbx is a 2-band compander along the lines of their2bx dynamic range expander. This would eliminate breathing and negate Dolby C's claimed advantages. Unfortunately, for most source material and most listeners dbx works fine; dbx isn;t about to fix something that ain't broke. Oh, well - nothing's perfect... -- Shaun Simpkins uucp: {ucbvax,decvax,chico,pur-ee,cbosg,ihnss}!teklabs!tekcad!shauns CSnet: shauns@tek ARPAnet:shauns.tek@rand-relay
gregr@tekig1.UUCP (09/07/83)
Your problem with DBX is characteristic of this type of noise reduction unit. It is caused by the fact the DBX uses a much higher expansion/compression ratio than Dolby, and is not frequency or signal level selective. This method used bydBx produces a much better signal-to-noise ratio improvement than Dolby, but at the cost of producing "breathing". At low signal levels (or between record cuts) the dBx system compansion (expansion/compression) reduces tape hiss, or in the case of encoded records, background noise almost entirely. However, should loud solo passages occur which have narrow frequency content the system opens up and reveals the background noise as well. If sufficient frequency content in the midrange-high end is included in the passage it masks the noise level, otherwise you hear the noise which appears to be modulated be the varying signal level. This is the "breathing" you hear. In many types of music, particularly popular music, the masking effect caused by a constantly wide frequency spectrum can give very acceptable results. In music that features a lot of solo instruments the breathing can often be unacceptable. Unfortunately Dolby B doesn't offer a complete solution either. This system depends on accurate tracking of absolute signal levels (the reference level has to be set) and precise matching of circuit parameters between the encoding and decoding circuits. And IF everything works perfectly the amount of noise reduction is still insufficient to reduce tape hiss completely as you have seen. My subjective opinion is that the system you will be happiest with depends on both the type of music you listen to, and on your sensitivity to the side effects of both systems. There is no free lunch! CD disk players cost about $800-$1000 and PCM digital tape encoders cost about $1500-$2500. These are the only acceptable solutions for me. Greg (still pushing CD's)