[net.chess] Cheating

Parquier@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA (08/27/84)

From:   Pierre Parquier <Parquier@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA>

Sure, JPerry can say he has not cheated in the Delphi, since MClure says
so.  However, I think one may wonder about the value of this Delphi
since I, and many people I bet, thought till now that one's vote should
not influence others' ones.  Nobody yet tried to influence votes, but
sure it will come.  For many people, rules are being switched, and
changing the value of the majority rule, since there will be a gathering
phenomenon of hesitant people around well explained moves rather than
moves actually fitting with their own game style.

jim%rand-unix@sri-unix.UUCP (08/27/84)

From:  Jim Gillogly <jim@rand-unix>

Pierre -

While it's true that the first 8 moves were made without lobbying, the
experiment was, after all, advertised as "Delphi".  In the original
conception of Delphi, the method was to have a number of guessing rounds
followed by production of an answer.  For example, you put a dozen non-
experts on different terminals and ask them to guess the population of
Delaware.  You then tell each of them what the others' guess is, and how
confident each was about his/her answer.  Then repeat the guessing and
broadcasting of answers until you exhaust the planned number of rounds or
your patience or until it converges (I forget what the usual terminating
condition was).  So I'd call it something other than "cheating", which is
kind of offensive.

	Jim

Parquier@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA (08/29/84)

From:   Pierre Parquier <Parquier@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA>

Jim -

Thank you for specifying original sense of "Delphi", which is a good
hint about the idea of this chess "Delphi".  However wouldn't it be nice
to clearly state what are exactly the aims of the the Delphi Experiment,
and by what means (ie by what Delphi rules) are they to be reached?
There must be hundreds of Delphi experiments possible, so one would feel
more involved in the experiment by knowing wich one we are in.

By the way, note *I* didn't introduce "cheating".

                                        -- Pierre