[net.audio] CD principles -Superstition strikes yet again.

jj@rabbit.UUCP (09/22/83)

The idea of switching the phase of one speaker has come up before
in comparison with the phase shift of a CD.
The two problems are completely unrelated, in both the technical
sense and the perceptual sense.   This continuing falsehood shows the
utter uselessness of vehicles such as netnews, where unsubstantiated
nonsense and rumor carry the same weight as informed opinion.

FLAME ON FULL!!!!!!!!!

This piece of blatant superstition has been mentioned on the net,
in the news media, and in private communication.  It is
just that, blatant superstition.

For the last damned time <I hope>:
	When you change the polarity of one of your
speakers, you have introduced a uniform phase shift of
180 degrees BETWEEN the channels of your system.

	When you have a 180 degree phase shift at
the top end of the frequency range of a CD, you STILL
have EXACTLY the SAME phase in each channel, even though
the signal at HIGH frequencies is at a different phase
than the signal at LOW frequecies.  

As a result, the bass cancelation, imaging distortion,
and other frequency response anomalies that you get when
you have one speaker out of phase do NOT arise, IN ANY WAY
WHATSOEVER, in a CD.  The effect of phase varying with frequency
is different, sounds completely different, and is
usually inaudable, unless extremely severe, and occurring
over a very short frequency range.

BOO HISS.

I don't doubt that a lot of stereo salesmen have told this
lie, but the word of most stereo salesmen is worth exactly
nothing.  This net used to be a good place for technical discussion
and exchanging rumors of new products, good products, etc.
It is now a haven for two things, first unmitigated snobbery,
of the sort that claims that you MUST pay 2000$ and subscribe to
all the latest audiophile trends, and second blatantly silly discussion
about dingital vs analog recordig techniques.

Please move this discussion to net.flame, where I can give
it the roasting and basting that it so richly deserves.
I don't read net.audio most of the time, because there's nothing
of use in it.  I was pointed to the article this one refers to by
some people who read the last round of silliness.

rabbit!<move it to net.flame>jj

Oh, yes.  Comparing the sound of violins is fine, if you know
what miking techniques were used.  Have you ever listened to a violin
from 12 inches? Can you recognize the difference between miking techniques
and recording techniques? Don't blame the recording media for the
silly miking technique used by the people who recorded
the disc you listened to.

I've listened to CD's and analog recordings quite a bit,
and I almost always like the digital recording better.
I do NOT, in many cases, like the miking techniques
or the performances, but that is the fault of the person
using the system, not of the recording system.