[net.audio] NAD Tuner

newman (10/29/82)

Has anyone heard when/where the new NAD 4150 supertuner will be coming
out? I've seen several product announcements (Stereo Review among others)
but nothing from the stores. It sounds like an incredible product.

newman (03/30/83)

Anyone shopping for a superb tuner should check out the March Audio for
the NAD 4150 review. Leonard Feldman says several things like "the most
sensitive tuner we have ever measured", "one of the most significant
achievements in RF circuit design ever", "surpasses Schotz's earlier
design, the Sherwood Micro-CPU 100, in all respects by a wide margin".
The latter cost over $2000 a few years back. A few measurement highlights:
IHF sensitivity (30 db quieting?) 1.2 uV (!) capture ratio 0.9 db with
weak signal, thd around .04 - .06, separation 50 db 50 Hz-10kHz, s/n in
stereo (strong signal) 80 db. Price: $338 US (!).
Now for my question (I have the NAD). I was a/b-ing it with a Macintosh
MR78, with a dipole, with cable, and with a good Yagi rooftop antenna with
rotator. The sound quality on strong signals was very similar, although
there was an audible difference. The Mac sounded slightly warmer and
mushier, the NAD had a cleaner sound, noticeable in the high end. With
the dipole and cable antennas, the NAD received at least as many stations
as the Mac and was often significantly quieter. However, with the Yagi
antenna, a really bizarre thing happened. When the antenna was pointed
sw, the Mac received stations normally, but the NAD became so horribly
noisy and distorted as to be unlistenable; the signal strength leds
showed high signal all over the dial, even when there were no stations.
When the antenna was rotated to se, the problem vanished and the NAD was
fine again. The thing is, I don't think it could be signal overload from
the antenna because the NAD can take several VOLTS (although the Mac
can take 12 volts!). What gives? What could produce such behaviour? Could
a nearby ham station do this? As far as I know, there are no nearby fm
transmitters (suburban neighbourhood). Any ideas by mail or net would be 
appreciated.

Ken Newman
Univ. of Toronto

ijb@druxv.UUCP (12/17/83)

I just bought a NAD 4150 tuner and I would like to share my impressions
of it with net folks.  The NAD replaced an old Dynaco FM-5 on which the
muting circuit failed.  The NAD is a bit quieter than the Dynaco (s/n
and all that).  The NAD has much greater separation and significantly
better high frequency response.  The operation of the NAD is very simple
and has proven to satisfy my requirements.  I have only used the NAD in
suburban environments so I can't comment on its multipath rejection
characteristics, but it is supposed to do quite well there.  As for
fringe reception, it seems to do fairly well, it does bring in weak
signals better than the Dynaco.  Overall it seems to be a good little
unit, but I can't really prove that it was worth $300 when there are
more consumer oriented companies (Pioneer, Sony, &c.) selling good
quality units for $150 to $200 (discount prices of course).
--Ira