[net.audio] More Digital vs. Analogue

greg@olivej.UUCP (Greg Paley) (01/06/84)

I received as a Christmas gift the DGG digital recording (on
analogue vinyl discs - I don't have a CD player) of Wagner's
"Tristan und Isolde" (Carlos Kleiber, cond.).  I use this
only as a particular example of what I've experienced over
the past couple of years.  The performance is in many ways a
great one, but the sound is in many ways inferior to the
1952 EMI Furtwaengler recording.  There are the obvious things
that one has heard often complained of with digital recording
such as the lack of ambience, the stridency of strings and
winds, etc.  However, there is also a shallowness to the
"soundstage" and a disembodied quality to voices, particularly
female, that I haven't seen explained.  The net result is
that even if digital recording can produce extraordinary
specifications with test signals and analogue recordings are
using distortion to trick the ear, good analogue recordings 
present an orchestra like the Chicago Symphony, Vienna
Philharmonic, or (as in this case) Dresden State Opera
Orchestra with a beauty and amplitude that are
absent from their digital counterparts but present at live
presentations in a decent hall.

I can understand to a degree musicians advocating the system
since they tend to be notoriously unaware of a listener's
perspective and like recordings which present them as
loud, bright, front and center.  It's even more understandable
that conductors like Karajan endorse them, since the sound
produced by a digital recording of an orchestra is very
much like what you hear from the podium, or if you are seated
directly behind the podium.  They are, I think, forgetting
that this sound is an embryonic one which needs to be
modified by the auditorium before reaching the listener as
a final product.

I am not anti-digital.  Each time I read a review of a record
that praises the extraordinary digital recording I still rush
to listen to it hoping I've been wrong so far.  Out of
several hundred, all but a handful have been bitter disappoint-
ments.  Of that handful, I still can't say clearly that they've
been better than the best analogue, but merely that they haven't
been as obviously worse as the rest.  This leads me to say that,
whatever the potential of the medium, there is something
radically wrong with its current deployment.  The tragedy is
that a generation of performing musicians are having their
unreproduceable performances archived in a defective manner.

These observations are not limited to analogue pressings of
digital master recordings.  Although I don't own a CD player
I've had extensive opportunities to audition them with a
large selection of software.  Except for the lack of problems
like surface noise and inner-groove distortion, my impression
has been essentially unaltered.

Please convince me that I'm wrong.  I want to see progress made
in sound recording and I want to be happy about it.

Greg Paley
Olivetti ATC
Cupertino, Ca.
(408) 996-3867 x.353

sdyer@bbncca.ARPA (Steve Dyer) (01/08/84)

As has been discussed here before, recording techniques have a profound
effect on the depth and clarity of the soundstage.  I have heard excellent
digital recordings of local Boston performances made by members of the
Boston Audio Society, using only two or three microphones.

Unfortunately, the ossified techniques of many of the major recording
studios and their engineers still produce flat, lifeless and unconvincing
products.  I suspect your bad experiences with digitally recorded records
are actually examples of this.
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/Steve Dyer
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