shauns@vice.UUCP (Shaun Simpkins) (02/11/84)
A nice posting, Greg...I have no argument but a small clarification of filter types. If we take into account the stated frequency response of the Sony unit and the transition band requirements there is NO WAY a 9th order Bessel filter with its very gradual slopes near cutoff can produce over 70dB of attenuation with only a 10% frequency change. The Sony units must use a non-linear phase reconstruction filter to obtain the very steep transition slope needed near F-3dB. Proof of this can be had by examining the step response pictures of the CDP-101, Kyocera, and Phillips units. The Kyocera and Phillips units both have lower overshoots than the Sony unit. They also have a little Gibbs ringing on the tail end of the step, whatever that signifies (other than it is an artifact of digital filtering). I've also done some simulations of 9th-order Thompson-Butterworth and Bessel filters which agree with the test results I've seen. The Philips unit does use a low order Bessel filter. The constant envelope delay of this type of filter would imply that the Phillips should perform better than the Sony (if phase smearing is audible), but curiously, I've heard several reports (not on this net) that the Philips sounds poor compared to the other units I've mentioned. I don't know of any salon in this area that stocks Philips, and so can't vouch for this opinion. I should also mention that many other things can factor into sound quality, such as buffer amplifier design, different methods of error interpolation, etc., so one should not take this as a condemnation of digital filtering. The latest Yamaha CD-X1 has taken a cue from all this hullaballu and incorporated 2X oversampling/digital filtering into its 16-bit system to a) make a cheaper reconstruction filter and b) avoid envelope delay problems. It's the only 16-bit system that I know of at its price that uses oversampling. I'll be listening to it sometime soon and will report back on my findings. In search of the $300.00 quality CD player, -- Shaun Simpkins uucp: {ucbvax,decvax,chico,pur-ee,cbosg,ihnss}!teklabs!tekcad!vice!shauns CSnet: shauns@tek ARPAnet:shauns.tek@rand-relay