[net.audio] Klipsch info wanted or The Great Speaker Debate?

gregr@tekig1.UUCP (Greg Rogers) (03/14/84)

First I vote against the Klipsch speaker (all Klipsch speakers), buy
something else.  Seems to me efficiency and low harmonic distorsion
are their only assets.  Frequency response is very ragged and limited
at both ends.  I won't say more, others already have.

It has always seemed kind of strange to me how little debate takes 
place over the subjective ranking of loudspeakers in this newsgroup.
There seems to be little reluctance to get in very heated, even personal,
debates about which turntables, CD players, and tapedecks are
obviously superior to one another, yet few people have championed a
particular speaker (or cartridge) and even fewer have attacked them
on their choices.  The very quiet discussion now taking place over the
Klipsch speakers is the first such discussion I can remember and pales
in comparison to the CD debate.  Why should this be so?  Certainly
everyone can easily hear the enormous differences between any two models
of speakers while very few can identify differences between CD players or
turntables.  Most people would readily agree that the colorations and
imperfections of even the best loudspeakers are orders of magnitude worse
than any other component in the audio chain excepting the phono cartridge.
I have listened to, auditioned, tested, and compared state of the art
loudspeakers for many years and could never mistake one for another
their differences and imperfections being so obvious.  So why haven't 
great debates over the best loudspeaker raged over the net?  

My theory for explaining this reluctance to proclaim the best speaker
is that precisely because all speakers are so imperfect, so compromised,
that it becomes almost trivial to counter argue against anyone's favorite.
For instance, in general (!) even the most expensive electrostatics can
be criticized for low efficiency (not really a valid objection in my 
opinion since this can be overcome for $$ without compromising sound),
poor dynamic range, beaming, poor low end response ( yes you can add a
subwoofer but then a nasty discontinuity results ), and so forth.  Yet
even with all that some full range electrostatics have impressed me
greatly and I can easily understand why some people would rank them 
number one.  For me however, the electrostatic tradeoffs are too great, 
and I've opted for another compromise.  The problem in picking the best
speaker is to decide what ratio to mix all the compromised parameters.
Each person subjectively decides which parameters are most important to
him, and in what relative weightings, and then finally picks the "best"
speaker.  Please note (!!), the performance of a loudspeaker with respect
to any given parameter, (harmonic distortion, frequency response, directivity,
etc.), isn't subjective at all, each can be measured accurately and speakers
could be ranked from best to worst with respect to any one parameter, its
the weighting of the tradeoffs between each of tthe many parameters that
is a subjective personel decision.  And unfortunately it's the existence
of so many parameters that makes even the most carefully designed speakers
all sound so different.  Also unfortunately this makes it very difficult
for a novice listener to pick the "best" speaker in his price range and
can confuse him so much that he totally ignores very poor performance
in any one parameter while concentrating all his listening on another
parameter.  This can easily lead to a poor buying decision which he will
soon regret as he becomes more educated in his listening.  For this
reason I personally don't think there has ever been any worse advice to
a novice than "just buy what you like, that's the important thing".
This should only apply to those that have no real interest in good
audio, and only want background music or some such thing.

I must add just one other short thought to this rambling.  It can easily
be demonstrated that the room characteristics, (reverberation time, shape, 
reflectivity versus frequeny, etc) and the placement of the speakers
within the room can completely reshape the frequency response of the
speaker/room system.  Frequency response variations of 10 db or more
fluctuating wildly across the audio band may result from moving a speaker
from one type room to another.  This is not the exception it is far more
likely the rule.  This implies (at least) two things.  First, comparing two
types of speakers in a room other than the actual listening room to be
used is only useful for the most coarse comparisons.  It is TOTALLY
unacceptable in making final decisions between two good speakers. 
Second, you must properly position the speaker within the room if it
is to perform at its best.  A great speaker can sound miserable if not
properly positioned.  Unfortunately the proper position may not be
found in a particular size or shape room or may be unliveable.  This
can result in a poor evaluation of a great speaker just because the
proper room wasn't available.  You should also know that different
speakers will have different optimum positions in the same room.  This
is due to different directivity patterns of the speakers.

So which speaker do I think is the "best"?  After all I brought all this
up didn't I?   Well in my opinion .......

Maybe when I got more time,
					Greg Rogers