[net.audio] request info on Carver amp

mwg@mouton.UUCP (05/16/84)

I heard about Bob Carver's magnetic (?) amplifier a couple years ago.
Is it good for a stereo system; what does it cost; and how do I get one?
Thanx in advance for any advice.
-Mark Garrett

mat@hou5d.UUCP (05/16/84)

Well, I've had one of his original model (201W/ch for *significant periods*)
boxes for two years now.  I managed to drive it into safety shutoff ONCE
but it has been trouble-free otherwise.  His newer units are better
at long-term reserve, although not as good as units like Haffler's or the
(sigh) Perreoux.  (you know, a few thousand dollars, and  you get an amp
whose power rating is simply ``adaquate for all musical needs'', with
4000 uf caps on the power supply and enough drive to put out over a hundred
amps for short periods.)

How did I drive the amp into safety?  I had a TI thermal printer and a large
window fan running next to me and I was listening to Mahler's Ninth Symphony
(Bruno Walter on Columbia Oddessey) through my bedroom speakers (Boston A40's)
with the volume up quite a bit so I could hear it.  The first movement uses
massed strings for minutes at a time.  Strings have lots of power in the
high-frequency harmonics and the amp has a power-delivered integrator that is
supposed to protect against overheated voice coils.  It's weighted to be much
more sensitive to the high frequencies, and it must have thought I was being
bad to my speakers.  The sound cut out briefly without so much as a click,
and then came back on, and cut off again.  I went into the living room where
the stereo is and the power-indicator lamps were flickering ``randomly'' at
half-brightness.  I turned the volume on the preamp down just a little bit and
the amp came back on line as magically as it had shut down -- and stayed on.

This is the ONLY time is has done anything surprising.  I can play back the
Omnidisk demo tracks at wall-shaking levels and I can play the heartbeats
on Dark Side of the Moon right up to about 1/4 inch cone excursion on my
A100's (acoustic suspension 8" woofer).

I don't know how the bigger Carver amps would have behaved.

By the way, the poweramps in Carver's *the Carver Receiver* are more
conservatively rated, and the unit has gotten at least two rave reviews.
-- 

					from Mole End
					Mark Terribile
		     (scrape..dig)	hou5d!mat
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andrew@inmet.UUCP (05/19/84)

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inmet!andrew    May 17 18:09:00 1984

> I heard about Bob Carver's magnetic (?) amplifier a couple years ago.
> Is it good for a stereo system; what does it cost; and how do I get one?
> Thanx in advance for any advice.

There are two Carver magnetic field amplifiers available.  The one I'm more
familiar with is the original, the M-400 (now M-400a); I own two of them.

1) Is it good for a stereo system?  Well, yes... assuming a) that your
speakers can handle the power, b) that you have a separate preamp or at
least preamp outputs on your receiver ('tho Carver does sell an adaptor
if you don't), and c) that your speakers don't require a common ground
(e.g., no passive subwoofers or the new 'holographic' Polks).  The reason
for (c) is that one channel is positive ground and the other negative; any
attempt at connecting a common ground will short one channel out.  Sure
makes it easy to bridge for mono, though!

2) What does it cost?  $399 last I knew (mid-'81).  I'm only using one of
mine, though; contact me if you'd like to buy the other (needs minor work
and is priced accordingly.)

3) How do I get one?  Write to Carver (somewhere in WA; their address is in
ads in the major audio publications) and ask for a list of dealers.  Walk
into one of these dealers with a fistful of cash... :-)
 
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