hgcjr@utastro.UUCP (Harold G. Corwin Jr.) (09/26/84)
{Still munching?} I have just spent four days listening to 14 different CD players. This is a -- ahem -- "summary". I'll be glad to mail more details to anyone who wants to wade through 100+ lines of it. Using a CD version of a digitally-mastered record that I like (Supraphon's new Janacek Sinfonietta; A-B comparison of the record with the CD on 4 different systems shows them to be virtually identical except for surface noise), I simply listened to it on different players through my own AKG K-340 headphones and an amp or pre-amp if there was no phone jack on the player. In general, A-B comparisons of player vs. player were not possible. Therefore, take my results with a pinch of salt if you wish. Players fell into four general groups (based only on sound; "features" not considered). Starting at the bottom and working up (alphabetically within groups): Group 4: Sony CDP-101, Sony CDP-111, Technics SL-P7, and Technics SL-P8. Generally fuzzy, harsh, and unpleasant to listen to for long periods. The sort of players that give digital a bad name. Group 3: Denon DCD-1800, Luxman DX-103, Mitsubishi DP-103, NAD 5200, Sony CDP-701ES. Getting smoother, but still hard in the treble. A few of these seemed bass-shy. Mid-range can be very nice, however. Group 2: Hitachi DA-800, Luxman DX-103, NAD 5255, NEC CD-803, and Yamaha CD-1. Yes, a second Lux: this one -- and the other machines in this group -- are smooth and clear over most of the frequency range. The bass is full and firm, and there may be just a hint of harshness in the extreme treble. Group 1: Yamaha CD-X1. What distinguishes this from the Group 2 players is the EASE with which it does everything well. No trace of harshness in any part of the frequency range; clear, clean and detailed without calling attention to itself. A real joy to listen to music with. And that is EXACTLY what I wanted. (Well, al- most. I also wanted a DIN, RS-232C, or other accessory jack on the back. I hear that CD's are being worked on as GIGAbyte data stores. Unfortunately, only Sony and Technics have these jacks on their current machines.) I still want to listen to the Revox, one of the Philips- Magnavox players, the Meridian, an Onkyo, a Kyocera, and the Yamaha CD-2. (And another CD-X1: what if it does what the second sample of the Luxman did?! No clear choice left!) The first three are not available locally, the remainder are currently "back ordered." I'll post a follow-up when/if I get a chance to listen to any of these. In general, there ARE significant differences between players, even between samples of the same player. And another CD that I have (London's famous Montreal Daphnis et Chloe) is gritty and has a narrow sound-stage compared to the concert hall reality of the LP. Moral (which we already knew, but which *I* heard for the first time in this escapade): not all CD's and CD players are created equally well -- but the best are superb music-makers. [Guess we still need critics. :-)]. Oh, well -- good listening, all! Harold G. Corwin, Jr. uucp: {ut-sally,ut-ngp,noao,charm}!utastro!hgcjr arpa: hgcjr%utastro.UTEXAS@ut-sally.ARPA [or] hgcjr@utastro.UTEXAS.ARPA mabell: 512-471-4461 X 463 Dept. of Astronomy, RLM 15.308, Univ. of Texas, Austin, TX 78712-1083
tggsu@resonex.UUCP (Tom Gulvin Root) (09/27/84)
The tests listed in the article relied on (in most cases) the headphone jack in the player itself. I wouldn't trust that very much - all the players that I've tried (sony's, yamaha's and denon's) have terrible headphone amplifiers, along with most of the preamps tied to these players in dealers' systems. The only place I've found that had acceptable sound quality for headphones is the jack on the power amp itself (turn off the speakers!); using this, the major differences between players that I thought I heard vanished and I decided to keep my Phillips. Beware of any headphone jack in general - it may have a crapy amplifier. Gee - you would think that in this news group, of all places, people would consider all the items influencing the sound repoduction of a given product before condeming/praising them. Tom Gulvin - Resonex, Inc. - Sunnyvale, CA.