sjc@angband.UUCP (Steve Correll) (10/09/84)
Some time ago, Greg Paley cited some old vinyl recordings whose sound he prefers to that of recent CDs. One of them, the Maazel/Cleveland version of Prokofiev's "Romeo and Juliet" on London, is a particular favorite of mine. (The booklet inside the box bears a 1973 copyright, however, so it's not that old; the digitally recorded Telarc "Carmen Suites" released earlier this year, for example, bears a 1979 (P) symbol.) Purists should note that a session photo in London's booklet shows at least six microphone stands, and my ears tell me they were all in use. For example, the lovely brass band sound in section 24 on side 3 seems outdoorsy, as if heard marching through a public square--exactly as the ballet specifies--whereas some of the quiet woodwind passages earlier on the same side appear to be in a small, intimate acoustic. Throughout the recording, the apparent distance between the listener and the performers varies. London specialized in such tomfoolery for years, and producer John Culshaw makes a solid case for it in his memoirs, "Ring Resounding", but two-mike sound it's not. Greg also recommended RCA VICS-2042 (Reiner/Chicago performing "Pictures at an Exhibition") so I bought the recommended pressing ("German Pressing" and "RCA Ltd Record Division" on the back, "Teldec" on the disk itself). The sound is indeed impressive for a late 50s/early 60s recording. Hiss is low for the pre-Dolby era, I heard only one record-surface tick, and the disk is cut at a healthy level. When somebody hits a drum, there's an appropriately crisp thwack or dull thud. Cymbals and triangles shimmer, brass passages soar out over the mixture of other orchestral sound, and the dynamic range seems greater than today's average. Bass is a bit understated, but definitely there. The performance is, as one might expect, superb. The "Ballet of the Chicks" is by itself worth the price of the record, liable to make you laugh out loud. Does the sound meet or surpass today's best digital recordings? I don't think so. It is never painful to listen to, which is more than I can say of a 1977 analog Giulini/Chicago recording of the piece with which I compared it. RCA's errors are mostly sins of omission rather than commission, and theology aside, I find the former a lot easier to tolerate. Overall there's a lack of detail, as if the orchestra were behind a scrim. Woodwinds in particular sound impossibly distant and vague. For example, the wind, harp, and tremolo-string passages in "Catacombae" are a soupy mixture of sounds, not like an ensemble of distinct individual instruments playing together. In concert, or on a good modern recording, you can hear the minute differences of tone from note to note in a woodwind solo, as a clarinetist crosses the bridge, or a bassoonist struggles to control the half-hole G. Here you just get a pleasant generic woodwind sound. Similarly, the trumpet solo in "Goldenburg und Schmuyle" has none of the raspy distortion you hear on poor recordings, but none of the real rasp you hear in a concert hall either. String sound on this disk is rarely harsh and never metallic, but the louder it gets, the more it sounds like a single remarkable hybrid string instrument rather than a mass of individual players, spread across the stage, blending together. This shows up particularly during the great crescendo and decrescendo in "Bydlo" (which is incidentally one of Reiner's most effective interpretations, bringing to mind the heartbreak of a strong, dumb, ever-suffering animal). Giulini is the victim of either his own bad taste or that of the record producer, since on the DG disk the snare drum drowns out the rest of the CSO with ease. When the entire orchestra plays fortissimo, all notion of individual sections of the orchestra vanish under the shimmer and shatter of distortion, with only the brass and an occasional cymbal cutting through. At the end of the "Great Gate", for example, I'm accustomed to hearing orchestra bells playing, gong-like, but I can't find the slightest hint of them here (even the wretched Giulini recording reproduces them clearly). Maybe this performance omitted them, but it seems more likely they got lost in the pegging of the VU meters. My conclusion? Rush out and buy the record. The performance is great (modern recording technology just can't make Kunzels into Reiners) and the sound is remarkably good for its age. I wish the old Ormandy, Szell, and Bernstein performances were available on recordings of this quality. But before getting too nostalgic about the good old days, I'd suggest comparing this recording with the opening movement of the Telarc "Carmen Suites" mentioned above. Telarc's strings, even in the loudest passages, sound like a large number of individual instruments spread across the stage; woodwinds sound like real players who are actually in the middle of the orchestra rather than down a hallway behind the stage. Of course, different people are annoyed by different flaws in recorded sound; and my audio system is distinctly mid-fi. If I have a chance soon to play this record on a high-end system in a store, I'll let you know whether the woodwinds join the rest of the orchestra, and whether the orchestral bells reappear. -- --Steve Correll sjc@s1-c.ARPA, ...!decvax!decwrl!mordor!sjc, or ...!ucbvax!dual!mordor!sjc
greg@olivej.UUCP (Greg Paley) (10/16/84)
Steve, you need to hear the Reiner "Pictures" and the Telarc "Carmen" suite on better equipment. Don't be surprised if you find your comments about the relative sound qualities remain the same, but are reversed as to which recording they apply to. On the Magneplanar MG-III or Tympani IV (which I've heard driven by a Threshold amp) it's the digital recording that sounds as though there is a veil between the orchestra and listener and the analogue which removes that veil. As to the Giulini/Chicago "Pictures", I find this a well-conceived and satisfying performance, but have to agree with the negative comments on the recording. I have it on a reliable source that the DGG engineers were consciously trying to "improve" the sound of the Chicago Symphony - specifically, to make it sound like the Berlin Philharmonic. Or, rather, to make it sound like their recordings of the Berlin Philharmonic. Not only did this not work, but it squandered the resources available - i.e., the marvelous tonal qualities of the actual Chicago Symphony. I have to admit, however, that for all of the discussion of the recorded sound on these performances, the recording of this work which finds its way onto my turntable most often is the Toscanini/ NBC Symphony which I find has the power and force occasionally lacking in the Reiner performance and the animation and vibrancy occasionally lacking in Giulini's. The recorded sound is poor even for its time and requires some patience on the part of the listener to listen through to the actual playing. This poor recorded sound, which at least appears to have been reproduced honestly on the gold-jacket English "Toscanini Edition" series, is made worse by the additional treble boost and bass cut on the domestic RCA Victrola issue, and the phony echo and attempted spaciousness which further muddies the sound on the Italian "half-speed mastered" edition. - Greg Paley