[net.audio] toroidal transformers

shivers@cmu-cs-h.ARPA (Olin Shivers) (01/22/85)

I noticed that some high-end amplifiers use toroidal transformers in their
power supplies, instead of the usual rectangular kind.  Anybody out there
know why?
				    -Olin

newton2@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (01/26/85)

Torroidal transformers, wound on gapless laminated cores, have the property
that they confine their magnetic flux substantially within the core. This,
plus their inherently sexy form-factor, makes it possible pack an amp
into a small volume and/or to choose a package shape which better exploits
the volume-to-front-panel-shape ideal. Until relatively recently torroids
were quite expensive and hard to find in high-power versions (except for
some reason in England); now they seem more common. Machines to wind torroids
obviously must exploit mechanical principles brought to earth by a superior
ET civilization-- like the sewing machine.

I suppose I've been mispelling toroid in the above..

Doug Maisel

riner@dsd.UUCP (john riner) (01/31/85)

> I noticed that some high-end amplifiers use toroidal transformers in their
> power supplies, instead of the usual rectangular kind.  Anybody out there
> know why?
> 				    -Olin

Toroidal transformers for Olin' benefit and ant others interested are used
for two primary reasons:
	1. They are more efficient since the field in the core doesn't
		go around corners.
	2. They emit less stray field for somewhat the same reason.
Why havent they been used for ages you ask. Because they are more expensive
to make. The windings must be wound on the core directly (ie. the spool of
wire has to go through the middle of the core) which limits the size to
fairly large cores and it takes special winding equipment, wheras for the
rectangular type, the coils are wound on Bobbins en masse and the core is
assembled into the bobbins. Also the availability of certain core materials
and processes has only recently (last 5-10 years) become reasonable from a
cost standpoint.

-- 
	John Riner		UUCP: !fortune!dsd!riner
	AMPEX Corp
	Redwood City, CA.

wunder@wdl1.UUCP (02/02/85)

The toroidal transformers allow wonderfully small packages.  My high
school (back in 1974) bought a Crown D-60, a two-channel, 60 watt per
channel rack-mounted amp that was 1 3/4 inches tall!  Think about it.
The size was pretty magical.  The amp was real reliable, too.

The toroid proabably shows up in high-end stuff becuase the hum stays
inside the transformer.

walter underwood
formerly of
North Central HS Stagecrew
Indianapolis, IN