piety@hplabs.UUCP (Bob Piety ) (02/15/85)
Does anyone know if Fantasia is available on video tape or audio compact disc? If so, where? I have been unable to find it anywhere. Any comments are appreciated. Thanks, Bob
lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) (02/15/85)
None of the first line Disney classics, including "Snow White," "Sleeping Beauty," "Fantasia," and a number of others, have been released for home video or cable showing in any form. These films cycle back to movie theatres at regular intervals and bring in *very* substantial money at each cycle as new audiences are exposed to the material. There is considerable pressure on Buena Vista (Disney) to release the classics for home video, but they have so far resisted all such efforts. --Lauren--
rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) (02/15/85)
[] Not available yet to my knowledge and I follow the releases in Video mag every month. You have been able to buy the records for some years. But probably no more. Last I heard Disney, inc had really screwed it all up. Years ago they screwed up the visuals by blowing them up and lopping off the top and botgtom to fit the new cinemascope screens. Perhaps they preserved a print or two of the original so they can back away from that fiasco. Then, the last I heard, they had decided in their infinite stupidity, to rerecord the sound with another orchestra and "modern" techniques. People who saw it said the music sounded "o.k." but no longer synched with the film. I have records mixed down to two channel stereo from the original 6 or 8 channel process. I never thought they had anything to be ashamed of sonically. I saw the original film in 1939 as a 9 year old kid at the Radio City (old ??) in Minneapolis. that was a scaled down version of Radio City music hall in NYC. THey took the theater down foe a month to install the specialsound system (surround sound they would call it today) and screen about one acre in size (but with the standard aspect ratio). It was fabulous. I iused to resee the film everytime it was rereleased until they butchered it in the 50's, I think it was. If they put it back to the original sound and picture, in the hi-fi process (either beta or vhs) it should be perfect on a vcr. I would certainly buy one. Disney, however, as you probably know, is very slow to release anything in video cassette. -- "It's the thought, if any, that counts!" Dick Grantges hound!rfg
mat@hou4b.UUCP (Mark Terribile) (02/18/85)
I recall reading that Fantasia is STILL in continuous release and that is
not now in home video release, nor is it ever likely to be.
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,.. .,, ,,, ..,***_*.akhtar@ccvaxa.UUCP (02/19/85)
We (my wife and I) saw Fantasia in recent years - in the original sound and the new Dolby stereo. Firstly, the original sound was very good - Stokowski (sp?) conducted it I think - anyway, apart from being a little noisy, the performance was superb. Secondly, the sync between sound/visual is decidedly off. This was very noticeable and disturbing, esp. since we had just seen it with orig. sound the prev. year. We were both so disgusted by this gratuitous butchering of a brilliant movie that I doubt we will ever see it again in its present form. Pervaze Akhtar ..uiucdcs!ccvaxa!akhtar "So this is it. We're all going to die"
rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) (02/19/85)
> ...There is considerable pressure on Buena Vista > (Disney) to release the classics for home video, but they have so far > resisted all such efforts. > > --Lauren-- On the one hand, there's a lot of Disney stuff on video cassettes. On the other hand, most of what's there is fluff, and I recall reading that Disney has been one of the strongest firms advocating controls and/or extra fees on video cassettes and recorders. -- Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303)444-5710 x3086 ...Relax...don't worry...have a homebrew.
gnome@oliveb.UUCP (Gary Traveis) (02/21/85)
Yes, as a matter of fact, Disney Studios was the single strongest lobbyist pushing the "Sony suit" through. It went to the supreme court and was dismissed. However, Disney, with it's bevy of lawyers are now trying to get the Senate do push through a tax on blank media. That covers ALL blank (magnetic) media. Looks like Disney Studios is trying to make all its money off of lawsuits instead of good animation or moviemaking. They've forgotten how to make good movies, so now they simply fund other production companies. Gary (The usual disclaimer)
omh@brunix.UUCP (Owen M. Hartnett) (02/21/85)
The original soundtrack was (is?) available on a 2 record LP set, conducted by Leopold Stokowski. The movie is being rereleased with a new sound track, however, conducted by [I forget his name, but not a well known conductor]. Come to think of it, the original record may have been a "Music from the movie" and not the actual soundtrack [some of the pieces, notably Rite of Spring, was seriously edited, Stravinsky got mad when he heard it].
freak@ihu1n.UUCP (c e malloy) (02/22/85)
> Looks like Disney Studios is trying to make all its money off of > lawsuits instead of good animation or moviemaking. > > They've forgotten how to make good movies, so now they simply > fund other production companies. > > Gary I still believe that if Walt were still alive, Disney would be in the fore-front of releasing their movies on both tape and disc. It seems to me that he would be consintrating on making more good movies (both live and animated), rather then spending money on lawyers to stop the public from seeing the great work that his genius produced. The only good animated movie that I have seen since his death was "The Secret of Nim", which was done by Don Bluth, an animator that worked for the disney studios until they stopped making animated movies. But this discussion should be moved to net.movie. Clancy Malloy AT&T Bell Labs Indian Hill Naperville, IL (..!ihnp4!ihu1n!freak)
chim@ncsu.UUCP (Bill Chimiak) (02/26/85)
You are right about Walt. I read a biography about Walt Disney. Roy Disney, his brother always cared about the money aspect. Walt was wanting always to create the next great animation without caring about the financial stability of his enterprise. His gambles were good ones however.
rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) (03/18/85)
[] Well, that makes it one vs one. Two people have commented on the net from their own experience, not heresay. One said the sync was awful, you didn7t notice any problem. Let us know how it turns out. -- "It's the thought, if any, that counts!" Dick Grantges hound!rfg
robert@gitpyr.UUCP (Robert Viduya) (03/18/85)
>< Posted from fritz@hpfclp.UUCP (fritz) > Hmmm. I've only seen Fantasia once since it was re-recorded (although I > intend to remedy that next week!), but I seem to remember being quite > impressed with how well the new recording synched with the animation. I've seen Fantasia twice; once before the re-recording and once after. I definitely noticed the new version had sync problems. robert -- Robert Viduya Georgia Institute of Technology ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,masscomp,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!robert ...!{rlgvax,sb1,uf-cgrl,unmvax,ut-sally}!gatech!gitpyr!robert
rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) (03/18/85)
[] I gave up going to Fantasia (after 6 or 7 times) when they ruined the visuals by blowing up the pictures to fill the cinemascope screen horizontally and lopping off the top and bottom to fit. THen, to fit the smaller screens they lopped off the ends of the cinemascope version. The result was only the central portions of the original beautiful pictures and very grainy prints. Someone please let me know when and if they go back to the original prints. There is always hope. The recent issue of GWTW on videocassette uses a brand new never before used color print obtained from a recently discovered color intermaster that was mislabelled and lost in a corner of a vault in Philadelphia, if I remember the story correctly. Apparently all other original intermasters and masters had long since been used up, so the videotape (and any 35mm prints made for a while) are of better quality than the commercial releases have been. -- "It's the thought, if any, that counts!" Dick Grantges hound!rfg
fritz@hpfclp.UUCP (fritz) (03/19/85)
/***** hpfclp:net.audio / hound!rfg / 10:58 pm Mar 6, 1985*/ Then, the last I heard, they had decided in their infinite stupidity, to rerecord the sound with another orchestra and "modern" techniques. People who saw it said the music sounded "o.k." but no longer synched with the film. /* ---------- */ Hmmm. I've only seen Fantasia once since it was re-recorded (although I intend to remedy that next week!), but I seem to remember being quite impressed with how well the new recording synched with the animation. Gary Fritz ihnp4!hpfcla!fritz
chip@vaxwaller.UUCP (Chip Kozy) (03/29/85)
> /***** hpfclp:net.audio / hound!rfg / 10:58 pm Mar 6, 1985*/ > Then, the last I heard, they had decided in their infinite stupidity, to > rerecord the sound with another orchestra and "modern" techniques. People > who saw it said the music sounded "o.k." but no longer synched with the > film. > /* ---------- */ Having seen Fantasia more times than I would care to admit I found the technical quality of the music better, but the artistic quality lacking. The older mono recording had some problems, but the Stokowski touch was very apparent...and is now sorely lacking. That won't stop me from seeing it again, though. -- Chip Kozy (415) 939-2400 x-2048 Varian Inst. Grp. 2700 Mitchell Dr. Walnut Creek, Calif. 94598 {zehntel,amd,fortune,resonex,rtech}!varian!chip