[net.audio] JSE reliability

wjm@lcuxc.UUCP (B. Mitchell) (04/29/85)

One concern that has been raised about speaker choices is "will the company
be around tomorrow to honor the warranty if there are any problems?"  It
certainly is a valid concern, given the recent demise of Accustat (and
the history of hi-fi companies in general).  Let's face it, I didn't see
any speaker manufacturers in the most recent Fortune 500.  Some people have
raised concerns about purchasing JSE speakers, due to fears that JSE is
a small company (certainly true, but then are most other speaker companies,
Bose isn't exactly cracking the Fortune 500 either) and a new company (true,
and new companies do have a high failure rate).   However, on the  plus
side of the ledger, JSE has produced several successful (meaning their dealers
can sell all that JSE can build) models, and JSE has some very reputable
dealers (Harvey Sound in NYC has been in business for over 50 years, and
is not going to put its reputation on the line for some small company that
Harvey's thinks is one step away from Chapter 11).  Also, keep in mind that
while JSE's lifetime warranty is nice to have, how often do speakers fail
unless they're abused??  Frankly, I think JSE is going to be around for a
while, and they have some very reputable dealers who are willing to stick
their necks out on JSE.
What else can I say??
Bill Mitchell ({ihnp4!}lcuxc!wjm)

caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) (05/01/85)

>Harvey's thinks is one step away from Chapter 11).  Also, keep in mind that
>while JSE's lifetime warranty is nice to have, how often do speakers fail
>unless they're abused??  Frankly, I think JSE is going to be around for a

A typical Hi-Fi hacker IS likely to abuse his speakers enough that he will
need to replace a driver or two every so often.

Beginning with the meltdown of an an Eico 50 watt tube amp in 1961, I've
fried one complete AR-2, one complete AR-3 (bought used, partially fried,
and the woofer surround had just rotted), and a squawker on an Infinity
2000-II.  In addition, the Ohn supertweeter on an Infinity had a peculiar
rattle which was audible with only ONE record (french horn and organ).

I'm not counting the myriad little buggers that friends and I have put to
sleep over the years.  I've even demagnetized speaker magnets.

Strangely enough, I haven't blown anything connected to my Carver Amp
in the several years I've had THAT.  I have activated its protection
gotcha circuit a number of times, however.

Since most audio purists disdain amps with quiche eating protective circuits,
one had better know where replacement drivers will come from.

Modest power is no safety measure; all my speakers were blown with amps
of 50 watts or less RMS power.
-- 
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX	..!tektronix!reed!omen!caf
Omen Technology Inc 17505-V NW Sauvie IS RD Portland OR 97231
Voice: 503-621-3406	Modem: 503-621-3746 (Hit CR's for speed detect)

rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) (05/02/85)

[!-)]
But what makes you think you are typical?

Go on!  You know you aren't typical. Why you even advertise your
ham license in your id line. Now how many netters are hams?  You 
know and we know how superior you are to most of us plain vanilla
netters.

-- 

"It's the thought, if any, that counts!"  Dick Grantges  hound!rfg

caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) (05/03/85)

>Go on!  You know you aren't typical. Why you even advertise your
>ham license in your id line. Now how many netters are hams?  You 
>know and we know how superior you are to most of us plain vanilla
>netters.

If your stereo starts sounding mangey, poor resolution, or whatever,
just listen to AFRTS or VOA on 19 meters with a Ham communications
receiver for a few hours to recalibrate your ears.  Much more
flattering to a hi-fi system than going to a live concert in a good
setting.

And now, for something completely different.  I'm happy to se some
other netters discovering the Sony MDR-CD5 phones.  Good sound (about
as good as Senn's or Stax's I've heard), sensitive, and modest
isolation (very desireable when listening to CD's in less than idyllic
surroundings).
-- 
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX	..!tektronix!reed!omen!caf
Omen Technology Inc 17505-V NW Sauvie IS RD Portland OR 97231
Voice: 503-621-3406	Modem: 503-621-3746 (Hit CR's for speed detect)

ben@moncol.UUCP (Bennett Broder) (05/03/85)

>Modest power is no safety measure; all my speakers were blown with amps
>of 50 watts or less RMS power.

This is a very popular misconception.  You are much more likely to
damage speakers with an amp in the 25-70 watt range than you would be
with a high power model (100-300 watts).  The reason for this is that
low power amps are more likely to clip when pushed, sending damaging
currents to the tweeters.  The sound of a clipping amp is much less
noticable to untrained ears than the sound of a speaker overdriven to
an extent where it is likely to be damaged.  Hence, the reasonable
person will turn down the volume of a high powered amp before damage
can occur, but the person clipping his amp might not even notice 'til
a tweeter goes poof.

                           Ben Broder
                           ..vax135!petsd!moncol!ben
                           ..ihnp4!princeton!moncol!ben